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Post by Teebers on May 2, 2012 8:16:21 GMT
How is she going annancoco? Give us an update please!
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Post by annancoco on May 2, 2012 19:06:27 GMT
no she is not on any pain med, but i have read somewhere that they can have infant calpol? is this true??
thank you for that yodelpig if the baytril stops working i will give him all the info for that antibiotic ...... he is a good vet and seem to have a sound knowledge of guinea's ...... lord knows he has got her through some rough times in the past 18 months.
the vet did say it was likely to return somewhat regularly now that she has had it and did want her back to do an xray and a ultra sound but her wont do it until she has finished her baytril, which she finished this sunday ....... im still abit concerned because she is still having small amounts of discharge.... well i can see it on her (its dried)... i know this is going to sound utterly awful but, im going to have to weigh up the price of the op, i already know the xray is going to be £80, with whether she is going to be strong enough to pull through it.
the other guinea pig we had that had the op made it through the op with flying colours but unfortunatly her stiches burst 3 days later, that was awful and a horrid way for her to pass... so i have got alot to think about, but i WILL giver her ABSOLUTLY every chance i can ......
on a better she has been getting back to her piggy self this past 2 days, she is still up and down though ... she even squeeked for her veggies last night, which was a sound for sore ears!!
but i know she is still not 100% because she is puffing her fur out and its now as glossy as it normally is, and her abdomen feels quite hard. im still feeding her the recovery diet even though she is eating, i dont think it will do her any harm.
thank you for all the information and support, something tells me its going to be a rather long process over the next few weeks
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Post by 3piggles on May 2, 2012 19:27:50 GMT
(((HUGS))) I have been there, having to weigh the benefits of surgery with the possibility my pig wouldn't survive. Last time I decided to get the surgery, she didn't survive. I now know the vet has to keep my pigs long enough to make sure they are going to make without any intervention. I love too far from the vet to get there in a hurry, and I am not physically capable of giving subQ fluids. Only you know what's best to do. It sounds as if you have a vet you can trust.
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Post by annancoco on May 10, 2012 19:13:57 GMT
just tpught i would give you all an update on coco
she finished her anti biotics last saturday, so i took her back to the vets, he gave her the once over but since she was getting back to herself and eating normally he said to keep a close eye on her and see how she goes
she has seemed fine, got her out for some floor time today, unfortunatly it has returned so we are going back to the vets tomorrow morning and we will have to go from there
thanks for all your support and advice
Anna x
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Post by wendypc on May 10, 2012 23:49:55 GMT
I'm so sorry to hear that Coco's ailment has returned. Good luck at the vet tomorrow morning. Sending good thoughts & well wishes your way.
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Post by 3piggles on May 11, 2012 0:42:24 GMT
Hugs! I know how frustrating it can be to have a problem that just won't quit! Good luck at the vets. All digits crossed for her!
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Post by Teebers on May 11, 2012 1:43:32 GMT
Good luck tomorrow!
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Post by jolovespiggies on May 11, 2012 14:17:07 GMT
We're all thinking of you love, do let us know.
Hugs
JO xx
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Post by annancoco on May 15, 2012 17:51:24 GMT
coco goes in for her op on friday morning,
im just worried about the after care
i know i cant use sawdust in her cage for a while after the op as it iwll stick to her stiches etc
any ideas on what i could use? i dont want to use towels as she may get her nails cought in the little hooks etc, and i cant really spend a fortune on stuff i will only be using until she has healed
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Post by Teebers on May 18, 2012 8:09:05 GMT
Fleece would be fine imo, you could even just layer it over the sawdust if you like. That should be fine for keeping the wound clean. Just make sure to watch for any discharge, excessive swelling or irritation around the incision site and call the vet if you are at all concerned. Most vet clinics do offer free post operative checks to make sure it's all healing as planned. I certainly don't mind seeing patients come in for rechecks at all!
I'm glad to hear she's having the op! Hopefully it goes well and she makes a full recovery.
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Post by 3piggles on May 18, 2012 12:02:50 GMT
Hope all goes well with the op, and it's the last you or she have to deal with this. I have some white, brushed cotton fabric I use over the fleece when I want to check on bleeding. Otherwise I just use fleece. You can put a layer of fiberglass window screen between the fleece and the sawdust, and the sawdust won't stick to the back of the fleece when you need to wash it.
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Post by annancoco on May 18, 2012 17:50:02 GMT
set off this morning to get her to the vets it is not her normal vet, my vet recommended them as they have more specilist equipent for after care etc. it was quiet a distence away 60 mile round trip
anyway took everything with me, her cuddle den and her own towel as well as her own food and water bottle and some veggies for when she woke up (i was extremly stressed out last night and this morning)
anyway my vet had emailed all her records over to the vet we were attending today, he checked her over but said he was not happy to carry out the operation, for 2 reasons, the main one being that her thought the operation was going to be un-neccessary (the other being she probibly wouldnt make it through the op) i mean i probibly could have pused for him to carry it out, but he was highly qualified in exotics
he saw some of the dried discharge on her so he has given some stronger un licensed antibiotics for me to give her for the next 10 days, he said that they are strong enough to treat anything she has and are more sufficent for dealing with infections in the womb/vagina.
i am kind of relived even though i had prepaired for all her after op care, iv even took all next week off work so that i was home all the time to give her pain killers, recovery food and anti biotics and if there was any probs i could get them sorted stright away.
do either of you think this will be the end of it or has he just thrown me a blinder?? she is back in her cage now not looking any worse for ware after her car journey, i on the other hand am extremly drained by all this now.
thank you treebers and 3piggles, for all the advice and information!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
coco and i really appreciate it XxXxXxXxXxXx
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Post by annancoco on May 20, 2012 8:09:11 GMT
during the night coco has not eaten she has had a mix of celery, kale, parsley and a little soinich coz she loves that she likes everything else too but loves spinich,
i cant get her anti biotics down her now she is really fighting it, tried dropping some on some veg as she begins to eat but after afew bites she just stoips whether there is antibiotics on them or not.
going to mush some up and try to feed her, going to mix some recovery diet in and were off to mu "normal" vet as soon as they open today (sunday)
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Post by 3piggles on May 20, 2012 12:15:17 GMT
Teebers would know much better than I would. I have no idea what antibiotic he gave her, but all antibiotics kill good and bad bacteria. The digestive system needs good bacteria to digest the food, so you need to replace it with a probiotic.
For some pigs, grinding up vitapoos does the same thing as a probiotic, but if all the bacteria has been killed, I don't see how that would help in this case. I hope Teebers gets on here in case I'm wrong, but I would definitely get her a probiotic, and try to get that into her. Not sure how to do that if she doesn't eat, though.
What does unlicensed mean, unapproved?
The recovery diet is probably the best for her right now. I have added baby food and fruit juice to it in the past, just for variety. She will let you know if she's interested. If she continues to refuse to eat and starts losing weight, I would stop the antibiotic. Again, really hope Teebers sees this and comments before I recommend something terrible.
Good luck. Please keep us posted, and hugs!
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Post by jolovespiggies on May 20, 2012 13:29:52 GMT
Lots of love and healing vibes are on their way love, I hope she is OK. Please let us know how the little love gets on.
Hugs
JO xxz
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Post by annancoco on May 20, 2012 15:05:58 GMT
my vet couldnt suggest anything else other than to maybe end her "misery" so to speak 3piggles is this probiotic like actimel or yakult? ?? i am also going to try come unsweetedned cranbury juice................. well im going to pretty much try anything at this point, she is just lying down all the time, obviously i dont know whether she is moving when im out of the bedroom. last night i put her not squeeking for her veggies down to abit of tiredness and stress from the vet trip, but today ii have offered her even more of the veggies even been and got some baby corn on the cob, as she liked that, only give it to her once in a blue moon, bacause its quiet fattening but she has still not eaten anything, not even dried food she is drinking, and i did gets some readi grass from the vets where she was ment to be having her op, i put some of that in her food bakll, and she has nibbled it but only afew strands the antibiotics he gave her are called ENGEMYCIN, now these do not have any form of penicillin in i made teh nurse double check, anyone heard of them?? since i cant find that make on guinealynx medication page and my friend who has guinea pig has not heard of it and also the fact that the vets did say that sometimes they use unlicensed medication i presumed that this is one of them? Anna x
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Post by annancoco on May 20, 2012 15:17:49 GMT
i have been searching, and came accross a thread in "THE GUINEA PIG FORUM" it said that engemycin is on the dangerous medication list for guinea pigs, i cant confirm this through guinealynx
PLEASE CAN SOMEONE CONFIRM THIS FOR ME AS A MATTER OF IMPORTANCE!
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Post by 3piggles on May 20, 2012 17:01:47 GMT
This is the GL section on probiotics. www.guinealynx.info/probiotics.htmlIt is oxtetracycline (sp) which is on the dangerous meds list on GL. I would stop it immediately, and go back to the other vet or even try another vet. Sorry, wish I'd had the name sooner. Not sure what the negative side effects are to guinea pigs, but if GL says it's bad, skip it!!! This dangerous meds section on GL has a link to a rabbit site that gives more info, if you want it. www.guinealynx.info/dangerous_medications.htmlI hope she will be okay!!!
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Post by annancoco on May 20, 2012 17:42:29 GMT
sorry 3piggles can you confirm that the med she is on which is named ENGEMYCIN is the same as what you have mentioned OXTETRACYCLINE
and that is is dangerous?
i am about to freek out here, he is a better qualified exotic vet he should have known that!
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Post by 3piggles on May 20, 2012 19:29:11 GMT
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