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Post by Bean on Jun 18, 2014 10:32:00 GMT
Happy birthday to you! Happy birthday to you! Happy birthday dear Jo! Happy birthday to you!
Hope you had a lovely day and that you enjoyed your birthday trip to the donkey sanctuary too. xx
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Post by SiLamb on Jun 19, 2014 2:47:05 GMT
"♪♫•*¨*•.¸¸♥ ¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪ Happy Birthday to you ♪♫•*¨*•.¸¸♥ ¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪ Happy Birthday to you ♪♫•*¨*•.¸¸♥ ¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪Happy Birthday Dear Jo♪♫•*¨*•.¸¸♥ ¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪ Happy Birthday to you♪♫•*¨*•.¸¸♥ Hope you had a fabulous day! Happy Birthday!"
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Post by jolovespiggies on Jun 19, 2014 18:21:53 GMT
Thank you my darlings for your lovely birthday wishes. We are going to the Donkey Sanctuary next week so it is something to look forward to.
Love to you both
Jo xx
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Post by 3piggles on Jun 19, 2014 19:12:58 GMT
? Happy Birthday ? Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk
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Post by Bean on Jun 20, 2014 8:30:29 GMT
Haha! Do you think we're making it up 3piggles?! It was on the 16th I think.
Fingers crossed for everything to go well on your birthday trip next week. Don't forget the apples!
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Post by 3piggles on Jun 20, 2014 14:04:23 GMT
I have this new list of smilies that keep appearing on Wheekers differently from how they appear in the selection. That was supposed to be a cheering smilie. No idea why they are changing? Nope, totslly believe it's Jo's birthday Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk
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Post by SiLamb on Jun 20, 2014 14:48:29 GMT
A Donkey sanctuary sounds interesting. I've been to a llama sanctuary. That was fun. They let us each take a llama for a walk. (picture of me and my llama attached) Love to see pics of the donkey sanctuary. Attachments:
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Post by jolovespiggies on Jun 23, 2014 17:24:32 GMT
You are right Bean hun,my birthday is on the 16th and I want to thank all my lovely friends for wishing me a happy birthday. We haven't been to see the donks yet Silamb but we went to an open day yesterday and there were Alpacas. They are so cute. Your lama is adorable, thanks for sharing it with us.
Hugs Jo xx
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Post by Bean on Jun 23, 2014 18:47:02 GMT
Aww that's a sweet picture of you and your llama, silamb - he's looking right at you!
Jo the open day sounds fun - it's always nice to see some lovely animals on a trip out isn't it.
3piggles, I've noticed a few of the smilies posted by others recently haven't been what I'd expected so I was wondering if something was off. I'll have to check them at some point.
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Post by 3piggles on Jun 24, 2014 20:54:53 GMT
Phone has a bunch of new smilies, but they don't seem to translate the same to all the places. Some work on Facebook, others don't. Some work here, some don't. I sent onecto hubby in a text message that never got sent because I was using wifi instead of mobile data? All these great smilies, and I'm back to using thecold ones.
Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk
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Post by jolovespiggies on Jun 25, 2014 17:02:53 GMT
It certainly is Bean love, I have never liked zoos very much because I cannot have contact with most of the animals.
Hugs JO xx
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Post by 3piggles on Jun 26, 2014 13:35:12 GMT
Japan has what they call bioparks, places where visitors can interact with the nonviolent animals, such as capybaras. I think the Japanese people are better behaved than Americans. I would worry about people hurting the animals in the US.
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Post by jolovespiggies on Jun 26, 2014 17:57:35 GMT
I have huged a Capybara piggles love and it was one of those very special moments of my life. I too would be afraid of people hurting them here too. In all honesty though from the things I receive on the internet it is the chinese who are really cruel to animals not to mention the Phillipines and Korea (please don't shout at me friends, it is what I have read)
Hugs Jo xx
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Post by 3piggles on Jun 26, 2014 19:14:07 GMT
I honestly don't know if other countries are worse, if just different. Some cultures eat animals we keep as pets, so that would seem horrible to us, but it's perfectly normal to them. Parents are as much of a problem as kids with bad treatment of animals. They take kids to petting zoos, let the kids abuse the animals, then sue the owner if the animal nips or kicks, or in any way tries to protect itself from the abuse. Kids pulling ears and tails, kicking the animals, etc. should be stopped by their parents, but they aren't I would never even take a piggy to a pignic, for fear of some parent letting their children put germy hands all over it!
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Post by jolovespiggies on Jun 27, 2014 19:18:32 GMT
I agree with you 3Piggles, it is up to the parents to teach the kids how to treat animals properly and this doesn't happen as often as it should.
Hugs JO xx
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Post by Bean on Jul 8, 2014 8:31:59 GMT
I also think in some other countries they are very matter of fact about raising animals for meat and not giving their welfare much consideration. We do plenty of that in this country too (although also have more farms where welfare is paramount) but most of the factory farming is done out of sight and not talked about - we just want to see the cheap meat, all cleaned up and nicely packaged on the supermarket shelf without thinking about where it came from.
Have you had your trip to the donkey sanctuary yet, Jo?
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Post by 3piggles on Jul 8, 2014 20:22:12 GMT
We are instinctively a hunter/gatherer species, but some of us have created civilizations that give us the luxury of empathizing with the animals. We want the cheap meat from the factory farms, as you said, but we also want the livestock to be treated decently on those factory farms. As for totally not eating certain animals because people keep them as pets, even that is different from culture to culture, and country to country. Dogs are raised as food in some Asian countries. They aren't treated any better than we treat our factory farmed livestock, because they are considered to be livestock. People don't keep dogs as pets in those places. My bunny loving friends are trying to get a major boycott of a supermarket chain for selling rabbit meat. I love rabbits as pets,and hate the thought of them being farmed for food, but my granddaughter loves pigs, and a friend of mine loves roosters. Some people loves frogs, while others eat frogs legs. It's not a singular mentality, and the more we mix cultures in all the countries, the more we see eating habits that make us ill.
I don't want to ban the eating of any particular animals, but I see no reason why the whole livestock industry can't be required to stop the brutality heaped on the poor animals that will become food. I really wish people could and would put themselves in the animals places. If I'm going to be raised and slaughtered for food, I want as decent a life as possible, and as painless and nonterrifying an end as possible. I don't think that's too much to ask, but the factory farm industry has powerful lobbyists who not only prevent laws regulating the treatment of the animals, but actually get laws passed making it illegal to take secret photographs of the operations and the horrendous abuse, and post them on the Internet. I think that is far sadder than eating an animal that was raised to be food. Total lack of decency.
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Post by Bean on Jul 9, 2014 8:47:41 GMT
I don't mind other people eating whatever sort of meat they choose (aside from human meat or endangered animals!) so long as they don't try to make me to eat it! With the rabbits, I get almost daily jibes about whether I'm tempted to put them in a pot but it doesn't upset me - it just gets tired!
Factory farming certainly has a lot of shaping up to do before we can consider it acceptable - but people are equally responsible for buying the cheap meat rather than selecting stuff that's been outdoor reared. It's all supply and demand and if enough people stand up and say it's unacceptable by not buying the factory farmed stuff, the people who raise animals for meat will have to up their game. I know cost is a major factor in what you can buy, and some people will never care how it ends up on their plate (let's face it, some people don't care about looking after themselves looking at the crud they eat, so it might be too big a step to get them to care about their food), but if you do feel strongly about it and can't afford the good stuff, just cut down on meat or go veggie.
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Post by 3piggles on Jul 9, 2014 18:35:01 GMT
That might work in the UK, but in the US the factory farmers would just sell the meat and poultry overseas, and never miss a beat. It's like the whole idea of stopping breedung mills by not buying from pet stores. Ifcall the animal lovers I know personally, and know of through them, are all using and supporting rescues, why are all the breeders and pet stores still in business? Because there is an inexhaustible supply of buyers who don't care about the animals, who will by the latest designer pets, keep them until bored with them, then dump them at a shelter and do it again We get Kobe beef from Japan, that only the wealthy can afford. We get Beluga caviar from our arch enemies the Russians, because hey, it's business not politics. There are endless markets, and if our factory farmers ever ran out of markets, the federal government would subsidize them to prevent the collapse of the industry We need laws to force a completely new mentality on our providers and the government, and those laws are going in the wrong direction.
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Post by jolovespiggies on Jul 10, 2014 18:13:36 GMT
I have just read an article about Cray fish and do they have feelings. The practice of boiling them alive makes me sick to my stomach in a way I cannot describe and whilst it has (supposedly) been stopped here it still goes on abroad and I worry about it as I do over cruelty to other animals. I have a really affectionate soft spot for little creatures like these and of course they feel pain. They are are people out there I could cheerfully kill slowly!
Hugs JO xx
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