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Post by shades on Jan 9, 2016 16:33:14 GMT
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Post by shades on Jan 9, 2016 16:48:39 GMT
Sorry, I'm struggling to embed the slideshow in the post. I might have to try again on the PC later. Sigh...
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Post by Bean on Jan 10, 2016 9:03:51 GMT
Aww they're so cute! (I totally agree they look like much younger pigs that 3 years old!) The hanging veggie thing is great - looks like it's giving them a good workout stretching and jumping up on the platforms too.
Thanks for sharing, it's made me want to look through some old snaps of my lot!
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Post by shades on Jan 10, 2016 12:01:18 GMT
I was living in London at that time and got all the gear from one of these large pet stores. I'm definitely going to try and get another of these skewers (I've seen sth similar on Amazon US) and also make some platforms. I'm sure they'd love to climb up on them.
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Post by jolovespiggies on Jan 10, 2016 20:09:06 GMT
They are absolutely gorgeous love, thank you for sharing them with us.
Hugs
JO xx
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Post by Bean on Jan 11, 2016 9:45:05 GMT
How long did you live in London for? I'm guessing that was pre-family days, or before you had your son at least. Have you lived in other countries too?
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Post by shades on Jan 12, 2016 4:12:01 GMT
I must have lived in London for around ten years. I've travelled around the Europe but haven't actually lived in any of these countries.
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Post by Bean on Jan 12, 2016 10:41:35 GMT
That's quite a long time! Weekends there have always been enough for me. I like aspects of London (great museums, theatres and restaurants) but it's too much for me in general - too noisy, too many people!
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Post by jolovespiggies on Jan 12, 2016 18:14:14 GMT
It is the noise and people I don't like Bean hun, I wish I did because there are so many wonderful things to see. I spent the first 11 years in London after which I lived in Surrey.
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Jo xx
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Post by shades on Jan 13, 2016 11:06:37 GMT
You won't like China much. There's many people and they're noisy  |
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Post by jolovespiggies on Jan 13, 2016 18:29:04 GMT
Maybe not hun but the Chinese people I have met here are just adorable and very friendly.
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JO xx
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Post by Bean on Jan 13, 2016 20:49:44 GMT
Some friends of ours went to Beijing recently. They said the hospitality was great - they tried some interesting foods (compared to our usual diet!) but really enjoyed the whole experience and seeing the sights.
The two negatives they gave were firstly the pollution - not only could you see the smog hanging in the air, but their throats sort of burned the whole time they were there. Secondly they said at loads of places they went, there were not just armed uniformed police stationed around but other armed professionals (that looked higher up than regular officers) overseeing everything - the feeling was they felt the authorities wanted everyone to know they were being watched and behave accordingly. Although they had no intent to be anything but polite, friendly tourists, they found it pretty oppressive. I'd be interested to hear your view on it, Shades.
Also, I forgot to ask what your first pigs' names were?
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Post by 3piggles on Jan 13, 2016 21:55:49 GMT
They were adorable, and I love the platforms you added to the cage. Great way to add space, and I'm sure they got a lot of exercise jumping on and off the platforms I'm not a city person, not big cities, anyway. I do love the museums and restaurants, but there never seems to be much down time in cities, when it's really quiet. I've only lived in Boston, which is a very small city compared to most, and it did have a very short closed time in the early morning. You really have had a great deal of exposure to different cultures and life styles, Shades. That's great! I wouldn't want armed police everywhere, just being there to be there. It's one thing in war zones, but I didn't much of China had problems right now. I know there are some minority groups upset about the way they're treated, but I didn't think they were planting bombs or anything like that. The smog is a terrible problem, and it's been covered extensively relating to international games being held there, etc. I find it sad that, after all the mistakes the western industrialized nations made with pollution, and all we've had to do to clean up the air, water and soil we almost destroyed with it, that nations with new wealth make all the same mistakes, as if there were no precedents. |
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Post by jolovespiggies on Jan 14, 2016 20:09:03 GMT
What would worry me about going to somewhere like Beijing Bean love is the animal neglect and cruelty you might see. I would end up being put inside for causing a protest and I would get more than upset. I have heard that the Philippines is one of the worst places for it.
You would love Parts of the UK Piggles love, quaint harbours with museums and nice restaurants (if you can afford it). There are several near here I would love you to see.
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Jo xx
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Post by 3piggles on Jan 15, 2016 20:47:29 GMT
I think cultural differences account for a lot of what people consider to be animal or even human cruelty. We don't eat dogs, cats, horses or rabbits, yet there are places where rabbits are raised for food, where dogs and cats are livestock/food, where horses are as edible as anything else when you're starving. Many pet foods in the US contain horse meat. Women use medicines to combat menopausal hot flashes, that come from the urine of pregnant mares. We don't see what those mares are put through, spending their entire lives kept pregnant, on their feet and in tiny stalls, just so we can benefit from their torment. We use animals in medical research labs, giving them horrible diseases, so we can see how well our attempts at curing the diseases work. Here in the US there is a constant battle to stop dog owners from chaining dogs to an outdoor dog house and just leaving them there. They might as well be in solitary confinement, but we don't have laws that force people to treat animals with love and caring, just to not do them irreparable physical harm. Emotional harm isn't even mentioned in the laws. So while I consider myself a true animals lover, I think a far higher percentage of Americans are just pet owners. That's why there are so many excuses for abusing or abandoning pets  I think I would love a lot of the UK I love the quaint villages and the architecture. I'll always be the one who knows all the ways to get from point A to point B without using the highway |
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Post by jolovespiggies on Jan 16, 2016 17:28:31 GMT
You are right as usual Piggies my love but it is not only what animals are used for but the conditions they are kept in. I would end up killing people if I went to the far east. Some of the countries closer to home are no better either. I know there are different levels of what people consider cruelty but I do think that many countries have no feelings for animals at all and I have no tolerance for that, there is no excuse for it. In my view everyone should love animals, period!!
Oh there are some lovely places here for you to see Piggles love, try Goodling "Mousehole" "St Ives" "Polperro" they are just gorgeous and the property prices are ridiculous as you can imagine. I can find more for you if you would like to see them.
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Jo xx
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Post by 3piggles on Jan 17, 2016 23:53:38 GMT
I will check on those, thanks Jo I know what you mean about the people, and I think any place that has political prisoners would seem very alien to me, as would any place with armed guards/police everywhere. I understand it was very much that way in Israel, when my parents went in the 80s and 90s, but that's because of the terrorists, not oppression of their own people. I do consider, though, that we hear the western version of Chinese politics, so I don't know if we're getting a true perspective from the reports we hear, or if our news agencies make Chinese politics sound far worse than they really are. The BBC China Bureau will report on the smog and traffic congestion, while ABC News reports on the injustices perpetrated against anyone who goes against the government, and our public broadcasting system (PBS) news will cover something else entirely. When we're finished checking all the news outlets, we still have less than 5 minutes of actual news, and no idea what the slant on that news is. The joy of being a retired newspaper reporter is that we know all of the tricks, and don't really trust any news outlet. |
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Post by jolovespiggies on Jan 19, 2016 19:04:33 GMT
What a brilliant post Piggles love and as usual, all very true. I often wonder if we do get the facts or just what people want us to believe. The world has become a smaller place and we get to know each other's movements but there is still such a large majority of it which we do not see and are not told about.
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JO xx
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