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Post by bazookagoof on Oct 21, 2016 1:38:52 GMT
No, Baz, we're not going to say that. If we can help, we will. Searching the internet can be complicated. If you don't know the exact words for your search, you end up in some really strange places. I've done so many searches, there's no reason for others to have to do them all over again. Nope, no stupid questions I know, this place respects its new members. I've been to a few boards where newcomers are not well-treated, and I refuse to participate on those forums. Some of them are still around, I guess people like the abuse. (shrugs)
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Post by Bean on Oct 21, 2016 8:00:55 GMT
On some forums it can be like a badge of honour to progress from being the new and abused to the established abusers - like a rite of passage! everyone here has been nothing but respectful to me... Apart from when you posted that zip wire movie clip?!
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Post by jolovespiggies on Oct 21, 2016 8:17:50 GMT
I think it is disgraceful Baz love, why treat newcomers like that? Apart from anything else it doesn't make sense. I have been on a couple of nasty forums in my time so I really appreciate how lovely this one is.
Hugs Jo xx
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Post by 3piggles on Oct 21, 2016 19:02:42 GMT
I've had enough of those abuser forums to last a life time. Degrading and humiliating people doesn't teach them anything useful. We're here to help
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Post by bazookagoof on Oct 23, 2016 1:52:11 GMT
On some forums it can be like a badge of honour to progress from being the new and abused to the established abusers - like a rite of passage! everyone here has been nothing but respectful to me... Apart from when you posted that zip wire movie clip?! Well, if there were insults in that thread I must have missed them. I can understand there's a bit of fatigue that sets it when you moderate a board and must endure a fairly steady flow of the same questions on a regular basis... but if you find yourself getting snarky with newcomers, perhaps you should delegate someone else to take care of it. I know of another forum where one moderator is always greeting newcomers, and makes every effort to make them feel at home. Other places should take note! Again though, Wheekers is a pleasant board to post on. (On a side note, I wonder why it seems many new people sign on, post once and never come back.)
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Post by shay on Oct 23, 2016 5:30:03 GMT
Well I have felt comfortable here and feel welcomed on this forum. I too have just stumbled upon forums, from googling questions and such, where I see people's responses and they are shaming the person who is there to learn. Like for example anyone who states their guinea pig is in too small of a cage and asks for proper dimensions, they get lots of comments hating on them because their guinea pig(s) are in a pet store cage. But everyone makes mistakes and they are clearly asking the question because they want proper information. Stuff like that I do not like.
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Post by bazookagoof on Oct 23, 2016 13:17:53 GMT
Well I have felt comfortable here and feel welcomed on this forum. I too have just stumbled upon forums, from googling questions and such, where I see people's responses and they are shaming the person who is there to learn. Like for example anyone who states their guinea pig is in too small of a cage and asks for proper dimensions, they get lots of comments hating on them because their guinea pig(s) are in a pet store cage. But everyone makes mistakes and they are clearly asking the question because they want proper information. Stuff like that I do not like. Ah, you are quite familiar with this nonsense, then. The other board that is rude actually had several threads devoted to new people complaining about how unprofessional the staff was! Once I saw that, I decided to never post there again.
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Post by jolovespiggies on Oct 23, 2016 14:19:21 GMT
I have been on another bunny and hedgehog site where I was torn to pieces. Thankfully now I have found lovely Wheekers and really a great hedgehog, snails and bunny one.
Hugs JO xx
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Post by 3piggles on Oct 24, 2016 17:11:31 GMT
There are some rights and wrongs to the care and feeding of any animal, including ourselves, but except for a few absolutes, such as piggies should have 80% hay, 20% pellets, unlimited clean water, and veggies on as treats or to help with their digestion, the rest of it is mostly guidelines.
Oxbow and some others are top names in the pellet and hay industries. They are also the most expensive. Not everyone can afford to buy those products. So while 80% of the diet should be hay, translate that to an unlimited supply of whatever hay you can afford and have space to store, as long as it's not alfalfa.
Big, beautiful, expensive pellets are great, but not if you can't afford them. Pigs need their calcium intake limited as much as possible. That means check the amount of calcium on everything you buy for them. I have yet to find a hay/pellet combination that doesn't provide more calcium than they should have, so my rule of thumb is that's where they get their calcium, and I restrict their veggies to ones with minimal to no calcium. Calcium causes stones, if they can't process it through their systems fast enough. Stones are very painful for the pigs and can be fatal. Stones are also very expensive for us, as we pay the vet bills for the surgeries.
It's always a good idea to have your drinking water tested for elements/calcium and anything else, so you know exactly how much calcium you might be giving them through their drinking water. If you limit the calcium in their veggies, and they get stones often, anyway, it could be your water causing the problem. Your hay could also be the source, as there is calcium in hay, so perhaps changing the brand or source of hay would help. All less expensive than repeated surgeries.
So you can do a lot of different things to control your pigs health. There are very few absolutes, so people who insist something can only be done one way, need their choices validated by others.
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