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Post by Bean on Jan 12, 2019 14:43:39 GMT
Oh you've reminded me, I need to search out the spare window handles I know we have in the shed before it gets dark as the one in our bedroom broke yesterday, so it's currently stuck shut.
Our kids do tech on rotation in the first couple of years of high school (before they choose their GCSEs) and that includes food technology - the other two are graphic design and what was woodwork but is now called resistant materials or something? My point is everyone does them all, and I'm sure any knowledge of nutrition or cooking will be of use to everyone.
Perhaps now the government can see how wrong things are going for the nation's health, that'll be incorporated in the ever-evolving curriculum (as in the schools can step in and do what parents don't seem to be able to once again!).
The tone of this book is great in that he's not like 'you must eat this or do this'. He acknowledges constantly that there is no one diet or right way of doing anything, but it's just about incorporating the principles of a good diet, movement, stress reduction and good sleep in to your life, whether it's little steps or an overhaul.
I started reading his stuff after hearing a podcast with him and a nutritionist who also sounded interesting, but I looked up her books at the library too and was very prescriptive about what you should eat and when (at least for a 4 week period, to reset your gut into a hardy organ that can digest anything without complaint!), and I can imagine that many of those foods would be expensive. So I didn't get much further with her!
But yes, of course it's hard in that only people who are interested in health and taking responsibility for it will be the ones to read it. Not many people with great ideas seem to have got round that one!
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Post by jolovespiggies on Jan 12, 2019 18:26:01 GMT
I just wish I could be provided with a diet sheet so I know what to eat in equal measures. doing it alone I never know if I am eating the right thing and if it is the right quantity. a personal trainer would be ideal but we all know that is out of the question!
hugs jo xx
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Post by 3piggles on Jan 12, 2019 23:18:33 GMT
If you mean 1/4 cup of this. And 1/3 cup of that, you should be able to find some of that online, but make sure it's a regular diet site, not for diabetes or high blood pressure. Unless that's what you want.
I think the first step is to l.m eave the table not feeling full. It helps us reduce our portion size. Otherwise, without a lot of research, you probably won't find a list of foods you can afford, that you like, and that are healthy for you to eat.
I read an article that said, if you're feeling too sick to eat, drink some fruit juice. Obviously a low acid one without pulp. It gives us the fluid and nutrients we need to get us through.
Bean, I think the idea of diets tailored to individuals is why our two big diet companies are still in business. Originally, they had very strict diets, same for everyone. Then Jenny Craig started making the meals with the right serving sizes, and selling them ad part of the program. Weight Watchers did the same, but sold the meals in stores. Now, there are lots of frozen meals in diet servings. Including desserts and snacks. It's a huge business on the US, yet we're still an obese nation.
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Post by Bean on Jan 13, 2019 8:26:17 GMT
I know some people who struggle massively with self-control, do benefit from at least a period of having everything prescribed to get them started. I just don't think it's sustainable - it's not a practical or enjoyable way to eat or live long term, and doesn't make people happy and relaxed or understand nutrition, just obsessed with control.
It's like the fact both our countries are performing more and more gastric bypasses for very overweight people - we have to surgically prevent thousands of people from being able to eat instead of them learning to eat less? I know it benefits lots of people, but basically shows how screwed up we are.
Jo, I'm sure your GP could help you if you need advice on losing weight?
The problem with someone telling you exactly what to eat is that you might not like what they suggest, and that makes it a lot harder to stick to! There are so many delicious foods that are good for us, so I think eating better to feel better is a great idea that many people could be taking advantage of. Unfortunately there's so much easy, processed crud available that we can easily get trained up to eat rubbish, and half the battle is retraining your taste buds and your behaviour.
Just focus on eating mainly healthy stuff rather than worrying about portions - whole grains and lots of vegetables, not much in the way of processed stuff or sugary foods. Pretty much everyone feels better when the calories they take in are packed with nutrients, and feeling the best I can is always my motivation for making any changes. Are there healthy snacks you like, that you could reach for?
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Post by 3piggles on Jan 13, 2019 17:05:17 GMT
Most diet plans finally figured out that not everyone wants to eat the same things. The prepared meals are great for busy or single people who don't want to bother to figure it out on their own. The meals are also good at showing decent portion sizes.
I got the idea, and started making my own meals. Hubby and daughter weren't happy with the portion sizes, so the sizes kept increasing until we were right back where we started.
Now, I make meals we both like, and fight for my smaller portion size. Hubby is coming around, but his ADHD always makes him fight any change. He's joined me with smaller portions, but still likes to splurge periodically, which okay.
Bean, I mentioned restaurant offerings of all you can eat, and more than anyone should eat. Add to that a constant barrage of food ads on TV, of beautifully illustrated menus in restaurant windows, and a whole lot of other things, and there is a constant push not only to eat, but to eat a lot.
Right now, I have two quarts of Mediterranean bean salad, a quart of marinated mushrooms/cherry tomatoes/cukes/red onions, containers of broccoli florets, romaine, celery, etc., and of course, yogurt/blueberry/granola parfaits of about 150 calories, so it's just as easy to reach into the fridge and grab healthy foods, as it is to grab less healthy foods.
I have a container of shredded carrots for salads and cooking, and will make carrot and celery sticks for snacking. These are foods I actually love, I don't suffer eating these things 🤗
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Post by Bean on Jan 13, 2019 19:04:04 GMT
Oh yes, the 'all you can eat' restaurants or the ones (which I've only really seen on US TV) that do challenges where you get the meal for free if you can eat a sickening amount, just drive me potty! I don't know why we would want to celebrate overeating when so many people are leading miserable lives and dying prematurely because of it.
I saw some footballer got in trouble for posting pictures of himself enjoying a steak, not just a ridiculously enormous and overpriced steak, but one covered in gold leaf? Get a life, dude! Of course if you give truckloads of money to people with few brains, they can't entertain many better ways to spend it than to be lavish and show off, but it's not a world I'd ever aspire to be a part of.
Glad you're enjoying your healthy, homemade snacks. I made some hummus and guacamole last weekend and my snacking moments have been some pepper and carrot sticks dipped in that, along with some olives. Soooo tasty. Put that next to a bag of crisps or a chocolate bar and I know which I'd go for in a heartbeat!
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Post by 3piggles on Jan 15, 2019 17:59:15 GMT
Ooh, your snacks sound great, Bean! I'm not a hummus lover, but I do like certain types of pesto, and plan to make some of those this summer, when I have fresh produce available. I have a recipe for Borage pesto, which pretty much checks all the boxes for super food, and can't wait to try that. The bees will probably be unhappy that I'm picking leaves off THEIR plant, lol. It's just covered with bees, which is so nice to see I'm not sure it's as much about giving money to people with no brains, as it is about giving too much money to people who've never had any. The first thing they want it to show everyone that they have money, so they buy fur coats, enough gold and precious jewels jewelry to add a few pounds, a huge house with all the trimmings, even if they don't use the trimmings, and they tend to invite all their poor friends to be their posse, as if having a posse makes them big men/women. We saw China gain a foothold in the global market, and promptly gear up all its manufacturing in the cheapest, most environmentally detrimental way possible. When the west tried to reign them in, they said why shouldn't they get all the benefits we got, when we did it. The obvious answer is that we stopped doing it, when we realized how badly it was polluting the planet. They're still polluting, giving people respiratory ailments that cut into their productivity with sick time and extensive costs to the government in health care services, yet they don't stop. They have the right to gain the same edge we gained, by making all the same mistakes we made, and no one's going to stop them. I think the level of illness it's causing is finally making them see the error of their ways, but at them time, people were an easily replaceable commodity. China had more than they needed, anyway, so who cared if they lost a major percentage. But it was the workers who would make China great, who were dying, so it was counter productive. I scream to myself every time I see a celebrity wearing a fur coat, and showing all the girls or boys who look up to them that this is something to strive for They even own pets, and wear fur coats Considering how many third, fourth and fifth world countries there are, who could all become major global players, I doubt we've seen the last of the worst part of industrial revolutions. Argh! Those pig out shows disgust me, and they send all the wrong messages. No one ever does a salad the size of Texas, just high fat and salt foods, which is even worse. I don't watch them, but the promos for them tend to invade decent programming.
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Post by Bean on Jan 15, 2019 18:31:45 GMT
I don't really mean that none of them have brains - it just frustrates me when people feel the need to show off, and enjoy the attention from having money, like it means anything.
I love pesto too. I like it on pasta (especially with cherry tomatoes and mozerella), and also instead of passata on a pizza base. There's a lovely recipe where you get a piece of salmon and some green beans, squeeze a bit of lemon, add a bit of pesto and bake it in the parcel. I love that. I could go on!
Let me know how the borage pesto turns out. I'm sure you'll be leaving plenty left standing for the bees!
I think we're both currently showing that even within our countries, we can't all agree and work together. So I guess there's no reason different countries would be able to, however frustrating that is, especially when people are getting hurt. I think I need a news sabbatical at the moment!
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Post by 3piggles on Jan 16, 2019 22:27:31 GMT
I take news sabbaticals regularly, and have stopped seeing news posts on Facebook. Still, with all the friends who insist on posting every negative Trump thing they can find, all of which have his picture on them, I tend to skip a whole lot of those, too. I don't think it's a lack of brains. I think it's a need to prove they've accomplished what they always thought was the ultimate thing to accomplish, having money to buy anything and everything they want. Unfortunately, they are setting the exact wrong example for their own people, saying having all these material things makes you happy, so it's what you have to strive to attain. That makes the poor feel even more disenfranchised, as they're never going to have any of those things. When poor white tried to be like rich whites, whites were the only rich to emulate. There's so much evidence of all the stupid, dangerous things we did to try to be like the very wealthy, yet the next group to come along does exactly the same things, makes exactly the same mistakes, with exactly the same results History is repeating itself at a really fast rate, and that's not good.
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Post by Bean on Jan 17, 2019 9:44:10 GMT
Anyone who cares what anyone thinks of them (in an ostentatious way, rather than just wanting to be a decent and well-thought of person) is on to a loser. But there are enough people that are impressed by vacuous displays of wealth, that it's just bound to go on being an aspiration for many... Like the ambition of 'being famous'.
Having recently watched 'Whitney', and being reminded of so many similar stories, it's certainly testament to the fact that money and success don't guarantee happiness in anyone.
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Post by 3piggles on Jan 17, 2019 15:09:45 GMT
No, they don't. I remember a Simon and Garfunkel song called Richard Cory, about a man who had everything, and killed himself. It's written from the position of a worker in his factory, thinking how wonderful it would be to be Richard Cory, and not understanding why he'd kill himself. After all he had everything. He must have been happy.
Those who don't have, have always thought having would make them happy. Too many of us spend our lives striving to have more and more. We often die without ever finding that happiness from having everything we want.
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Post by shades on Jan 18, 2019 3:46:30 GMT
I just ran for 25 minutes non-stop on the treadmill and I feel great
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Post by Bean on Jan 18, 2019 7:40:08 GMT
That's amazing! I am genuinely impressed. To do it is one thing, to do it and not feel like you're going to die afterwards must feel like a miracle! I'll definitely keep that couch to 10k programme in mind if the idea of running ever appeals to me...
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Post by shades on Jan 18, 2019 7:48:29 GMT
Everybody says "go slow, then go even slower". I'm not running flat out, just a steady 6.5km/h. In other words, I can run 1km in about 10 minutes. Not super fast. Olympians need not worry
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Post by Bean on Jan 18, 2019 8:53:40 GMT
Talk yourself down all you like, I'm still impressed! But do let us know if things change and you qualify for the next Olympics - we could have a Wheekers meet up to cheer you on! Is it Tokyo next?
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Post by 3piggles on Jan 18, 2019 21:14:47 GMT
Wow, I couldn't do that when I was young, healthy and mobile! Excellent job, Shades! One of our members, Wheekies, runs marathons, which I'm also never going to do, but I have a great deal of respect and admiration for those of you who do it. Excellent!
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Post by Bean on Jan 19, 2019 8:38:21 GMT
Wheekies is running marathons? Crikey! I'm impressed, I don't even remember her being a regular runner before.
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Post by shades on Jan 19, 2019 9:23:20 GMT
On the forum for this program, a lot of people have joined since 1st Jan. New Year resolutions! All kinds of people: from the fit and healthy to the lazy, unfit, elderly, overweight, in bad health...
Don't think you couldn't do it. It's really a program to build your strength and stamina. You can go at your own pace, however slow or fast that is.
I've never run before except when playing football. I always hated athletics at school. But I'm definitely feeling fitter and slowly losing weight.
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Post by 3piggles on Jan 19, 2019 20:53:52 GMT
I hated athletics in school, too, so I'm glad you found something you like, on your own. I love cycling, so that's what I do, at least during the warm enough months of the year. It's great to have a program where anyone who is mobile can do it to their ability. It seemed as if every time I joined something like that, they said it's all individual, then started with the "you can push yourself harder," or showing stats for other members, who were doing much more than I was. Took the fun out of it. Yes, Bean, she's doing local ones, and quite well, too I probably misused the word Marathon, as she's doing 5K, etc. She's looking great
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Post by Bean on Jan 21, 2019 8:14:45 GMT
Ah that's not so scary then (but still very impressive) - marathon running is so intense!
My sister and I went swimming on the morning of New Year's Eve and there were a few people signing up for memberships to start in the new year, getting their resolutions in place! I do usually notice it's busier in the pool in January, but now you mention it, I haven't this year.
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