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Post by jolovespiggies on Nov 22, 2015 21:00:01 GMT
Thank you darling, that means a lot.
Hugs JO xx
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Post by Bean on Nov 24, 2015 9:00:43 GMT
Hope you and hub are doing okay, Jo. How are the others getting along? x
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Post by jolovespiggies on Nov 24, 2015 20:40:28 GMT
We aren't to bad thank you darling and the two little piggies are getting on just fine. We are getting the odd rumble strutting and at one point Lacy Jane was trying to stop Merley getting to the food bowl but he soon sorted that out. When I give them their treats and greens I try to give them separately so there is no bickering. They will lie down and go to sleep together but they will not let each other in each other's igloos, which I suppose is natural. To be honest, they are not getting on as well as she did with Mr Darcy, but it is early days yet and there is no fighting. Thank you for asking love.
Hugs Jo xx
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Post by 3piggles on Nov 25, 2015 13:06:51 GMT
I think it's fairly rare for a bereaved pig to immediately welcome the new pal. They have to go through their grieving the way they need to, and just like us, each one grieves differently. When Dakota died, Dallas was terribly lonely, and cried if I left the room. I knew really quickly that he needed a new friend, and managed to get the youngest pig at the pet store, Zippy. They hit it off fabulously, and immediately, as Dallas wanted a companion, and Zippy was teachable age Zip got his cute little ears pinned back a few times, but he learned the rules, and they were two of the happiest piggies I've ever seen. They didn't really share pigloos, but they shared everything else, and would play a game of pushing each other out of each pigloo, until they tired of it and each settled down in one. When I removed the pigloos and gave them more of a lean-to type of house, it was the space under under a platform, they easily shared that. It might have more to do with the size of the pigloos. When Dallas died, Zippy was miserable, but he seemed to be happy to spend time with me. I probably should have had him neutered, then, and put him in with the girls, but I didn't really want him to go through the surgery. I got Grishy, and he and Zip didn't get along at all. That was a disaster from day one, and they had to be separated most of the time. Poor Grishy was a very nervous pig, and to have him and Zip in one small cage, at the vets, while we went to Florida for a wedding, was too much. He died at the vets. We got Zip neutered, and put him in with Momma and LG, and he was incredibly happy. LG absolutely loved him, and Momma was really happy to have him in her herd. So hindsight and all that. Give Lacy Jane time to adjust. If anything, and if you have the space, it might help to get another female to make up a herd, so she has more friends.
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Post by jolovespiggies on Nov 25, 2015 20:50:32 GMT
Thank you for a wonderful post Piggles love and I hear what you are saying. The pen isn't really big enough for another piggy but we could try and see what we could do. Space is a real problem here too, I so wish we could move. You are right, some piggies get on together straight away and others are daggers drawn, just like people. Some we get on with others we don't and I think it is the same in the animal kingdom. I have taken on board what you have said love, thank you for such a lovely informative post. I am so sorry to hear about Grishy, Merley is quite a nervous piggy too so we are keeping a close eye.
Hugs Jo xx
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Post by 3piggles on Nov 26, 2015 15:35:44 GMT
I totally agree that they have the same issues with others of their species that we have with others of ours. I've often compared it to going away to school and having to live with a roommate the school chose. Sometimes it's a fabulous match. Other times it's a disaster. If it's a big enough disaster, battle lines are drawn, and it's best to separate the two before it gets out of control. Generally, they exist in the same space with a certain amount of acceptance and a certain amount of animosity, without anything great or terrible ever happening. In those cases, with humans, the people usually go their own ways, and only share the space when they have to. Piggies don't get to go their own ways, so the snuggle time outside the cage, away from each other, might be really important to them.
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Post by Bean on Nov 26, 2015 20:43:50 GMT
It sounds like they are getting on well generally, especially as it's early days - a lot of pigs get along but don't want to snuggle up together in pigloos. If Lacy Jane and Darcy were really close, I can imagine you notice the difference in how she is with Merley. It might just take time for her to relax as much with Merley, or perhaps they'll have a different sort of friendship. I'm glad they're generally happy together though (my pairs get along really well but there's still rumbling and possessiveness over food!).
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Post by jolovespiggies on Nov 26, 2015 21:03:18 GMT
Thank you darlings for your kind messages and input and we are doing very well under the circumstances. Merley lived in a smaller pen but he could see the other two all the time so it isn't as if they are new to each other. Lacy Jane was a bit of a naughty girl and tried to bully Mr Darcy sometimes, I think I told you and being the gentle piggy he was, he sometimes put up with it. When he decided to stand up for himself however, she would listen and usually walk away chuntering. It was usually when she was trying to to pinch his food though, she is a greedy little madam LOL!! Everything you say is true Piggles love, even if they don't get on many piggies are forced to live together and it isn't fair. We are still getting chunterings but basically they are getting on which is all I can hope for. You are right Bean hun, she is not as relaxed as she was with Darcy which is to be expected as they had been together all their lives but it doesn't stop her trying to take liberties as she did with Mr Darcy. She tries to pinch Merley's food even though they each have plenty and rightly so, he will not put up with it. Thank you so much for your interest and I will keep you posted.
Hugs Jo xx
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Post by Bean on Nov 27, 2015 9:13:25 GMT
Poppy is the boss of Cadders - I'm not sure he'd dare try to steal her food! She doesn't throw her weight around much, but will certainly let him know if he's annoying her. He seems to enjoy the relationship - he can be quite highly strung so someone being calm, in control and having clear boundaries is just what he needs!
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Post by jolovespiggies on Nov 27, 2015 19:35:31 GMT
I hope my two end up being really good friends love, at the moment they are dancing around each other quite a lot and there is a lot of chuntering. They are now sharing food however and will go to sleep fairly close together so I am happy with that.
Hugs JO xx
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Post by 3piggles on Nov 27, 2015 19:49:02 GMT
Even though pigs live within sight and smell of each other, they aren't really together. Once they put their scent in the same cage, the whole game changes. They may have known each other in the "oh, there's another piggy" sense, but she has to get used to his scent in the cage she shared with Mr. Darcy. It takes time, but it really sounds as if it's going quite well
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Post by jolovespiggies on Nov 28, 2015 20:26:51 GMT
Thanks Piggles honey and what you say is right and makes perfect sense. When they are actually living in the same pen together it is a totally different kettle of fish so to speak. They are fine though, I don't think it will ever be a love match but then Lacy Jane is a bit of a madam so I doubt it would be with any other piggy.
Hugs JO xx
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Post by 3piggles on Nov 29, 2015 15:24:46 GMT
I think their relationships vary as much as ours do. She would miss Merle, even if she doesn't get all lovey with him. He's a part of her world, and her world would be missing something without him. Not all of us get that perfect relationship, but we can get very good working relationships
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Post by jolovespiggies on Nov 29, 2015 20:56:14 GMT
You are right Piggles love, even though they are a bit cranky and squabbly, I don't think they would like to be on their own. A few cross words earlier but all has gone quiet now so they are probably having a kip.
Hugs JO xx
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Post by 3piggles on Nov 29, 2015 21:14:41 GMT
Zippy and Dallas were probably my best matched pair, and Dallas periodically put Zip in his place. Zip would always make up to Dallas, in his own child piggy way
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Post by jolovespiggies on Nov 30, 2015 20:52:18 GMT
It is getting quieter in there all the time and I think they are beginning to share a bit more. It is Lacy Jane who needs putting in her place sometimes and I think Merley is quite good at doing that.
Hugs Jo xx
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Post by irina13 on Dec 8, 2015 22:32:44 GMT
There are no words to say that will console you.But,hugs to you ,rest in peace little one.
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