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Post by 3piggles on Sept 1, 2016 17:38:08 GMT
Politicians and police make these decisions. They want to stop the illegal drugs, but they don't think about the consequences to the people who really need the meds. It would also help if doctors would stop giving out pain killers like candy, but make sure that any patients in real pain get treated. NHS/Medicare and Social Security are all funded by the current working population, for the current retired or disabled population. That means for every person getting benefits from any of these programs, there has to be at least one person paying into the programs, at a level that will keep the programs funded. That isn't happening. Our parents were the last generation that had large families. Our parents created the last, large generation, the baby boomers, to fund these programs. Now, there are too few people working and paying into the programs, and too many people needing what the programs offer. They're all running out of money, and cutting services. It's sad, because the people creating the programs should have planned for this to happen, and planned for other ways to fund the programs, and they didn't. Acetaminophen is a pain reliever for minor pain, and has nothing to do with dieting. It's also known to cause liver failure if taken regularly over long periods. It's just as well the doctor wouldn't prescribe it. If you're taking it now for your diet, try to get a different one that doesn't have it. I'm glad the pain isn't too bad, and you're managing
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Post by jolovespiggies on Sept 3, 2016 18:16:59 GMT
That happens here Piggles love, some people are giving loads of pills they don't need whilst others have to go without those which they rely upon. It all sounds very complicated where you are Piggles hun and I think it is such a shame that many people cannot afford medical insurance where you are. Mind you, I don't know how much longer our NHS will last as the country is becoming more and more right wing and caring less for ordinary people. People are constantly getting turned away because the hospitals do not have the spare beds.
I am in moderate pain today, it was really bad this morning but feeling a bit better now. It literally changes daily. Thank you for your good wishes my dear friend. Chat soon.
Lots of love Jo xxx
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Post by Bean on Sept 4, 2016 7:27:25 GMT
The NHS are proposing to delay non-emergency surgery (on a scale not seen before) for people who are obese or smokers, until they've demonstrated that they are willing and able to change their lifestyles to reduce the problems associated with being overweight or smoking which they consider to be lifestyle choices.
It's been pretty controversial, and only discussed because the NHS is in such financial crisis. It's one hospital trust in particular who are saying they plan to do it, and the NHS are currently checking out if it's ethical. Their view is that operating on people who are unhealthy is an inefficient use of money as they're less likely to see benefits from any procedures and are also more likely to experience additional subsequent problems because of their health.
Things like this will inevitably get people arguing about the worth of one person vs another and create massive hostilities over treatment and entitlement. The current government must be cheering as it's bound to help people perceive the NHS negatively which makes it easier for them to get rid of it.
We've got several 5 day strikes planned by our junior doctors too (who have previously only done 48 hours max). I think they need to change their tactics to gain public support and get patients to somehow demonstrate that support in a way that sends the message. The amount of disruption to routine appointments and surgeries from this is going to be staggering and the messages about why they're doing it (which is related to patient safety and their working conditions, not just pay) aren't getting through to the masses, so many people are losing sympathy.
Glad you got the right pills eventually Jo, and hope there are more better days than worse days coming up for you. xx
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Post by jolovespiggies on Sept 4, 2016 18:56:43 GMT
Thank you Bean hunni, I am hurting quite a bit today especially when I sit and stand. I am managing to walk around without my walking aid a bit which is good but I am just scared of loosing my balance. I have a couple of hospital appointments this month but am wondering if I am going to make it with the pending strikes. I will probably get there and the doctor will have bugggered off lo!!
Thanks for your good wishes Bean love, I keep waiting to wake up to no pain at all but I don't think that is going to happen.
Hugs Jo xx
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Post by 3piggles on Sept 4, 2016 20:40:20 GMT
That's a side effect of socialized medicine. The doctors have to strike to fight for better working conditions. The problem is that won't change anything. Either more people pay into the system, to keep it flush, or each person who can, has to pay more. It does seem as if the pharmacy aspect could be done a whole lot better, but that won't save much money.
You have the same situation we have. The baby boomers are all elderly, now, and while we're no less healthy than our parents and grandparents were, probably more healthy, we simply hit the health care system on a major scale, just because there are so many of us.
About a decade ago, the government tried to end life-saving surgeries for people over 70. The government said those people wouldn't live long enough to make it worth the expense of trying to save them. If I recall, that was found to be illegal. Basically, everyone pays into the system, and everyone takes out of the system. If the obese smoker paid into the system, they should get treated. It will be interesting to see how that gets settled.
We have a huge obese population in the US, but pretty much every attempt to reduce that population has failed. The obesity is partly because fattening foods are inexpensive, while healthy foods are expensive. Fattening foods also last longer than healthy foods. A big box of individually packaged snack cakes stay fresh practically forever. Veggies can go bad in a matter or days, and cost more to buy. The poor get handouts of whole milk, cheese and bread. Not going to lose any weight on that.
The tax on cigarettes has increased the price of a pack to between $6-9, so a carton is between $60-90. When I smoked, I spent about $15/week on cigarettes, and thought that was a lot. It hasn't reduced the number of smokers by much, and as I did, I think most who quit just got tired of not being able to smoke in any public places. New Hampshire passed a law banning smoking in a vehicle with a child in it. I think that's could be successfully fought in court, as those same people smoke at home with their children in the house. Banning them smoking while driving with a child doesn't save the child from second hand smoke.
Michelle Obama started programs to get kids moving during the school day. In the early grades, we used to do jumping jacks between classes. Of course, the obese kids could barely do them, so rather than break a sweat, they just flapped their arms around. Michelle Obama has the kids doing stretches, arm rotations and other things the kids don't have to be slim and healthy to do, but that get them moving.
She also worked on making school lunches much more healthy. It worked really well in some areas, and not so well in others. I think how well it works depends on how the program is sold to the students. Make them feel lucky to have these healthy food choices, and they'll be excited to eat them. Tell them we're taking away the school favorite pizza day, and giving you salad day instead, isn't going to cut it.
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Post by Bean on Sept 5, 2016 11:06:57 GMT
I think we've got to the point in both our countries where we need to start changing things drastically - make people feel responsible for and care about their health, and that of their kids. There are definitely lots of positive programmes and changes, but it's going to take such a long time to see a real turn of opinion. And like you say, it needs to be done cleverly so people can see the positives rather than just thinking they're being denied the things they love or are having choice taken away.
I hope your appointments don't get cancelled, Jo. I think they've been pretty good about letting people know during previous strikes, but this one is a lot longer so must be a logistical nightmare with all those people who still need to see someone.
Glad you're feeling confident enough to walk without your frame sometimes, even if you'd still rather have it. Hopefully you'll feel up to having a nice little walk somewhere a bit different soon, maybe a nice park where you can spot some animals.
I was thinking of you last week when we were staying by the coast and I was getting woken up by the seagulls cawing away on the way to find their breakfast at 5am - they're noisy things! They've had problems there in the past with aggressive gulls, but they were quite well behaved - the ones we saw anyway. They weren't snatching food from people (there were loads of signs up not to feed them) but would only step in if people left stuff behind. We saw some catching fish very efficiently at the harbour too. They're such massive birds!
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Post by jolovespiggies on Sept 5, 2016 18:24:49 GMT
Thank you ladies and I am walking further without my walking aid, so I am feeling quite pleased. I am just scared of loosing my balance and toppling over again. I too hope my appointments don't get cancelled love, they have a habit of waiting until you get to the hospital before they tell you.
Yes I am afraid seagulls are noisy especially when they sit on the roof, you have your window open and they start, the whole house shakes lol!! Most of them are well behaved, I have never had a problem with them but they do get the occasional treat from us as the same gulls keep returning year after year to raise babies on the roof opposite, it is lovely. Yes, they are huge some of them which is why the cats leave them alone.
Hugs Jo xx
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Post by 3piggles on Sept 5, 2016 21:03:29 GMT
I'm really glad you're managing to go a bit further without your walker. Just knowing you can should build up your confidence. I walk around the house without a cane, as I have furniture to hold onto if I need to, and can always lean against a wall. I always have my cane or walking stick outside, where I don't have anything to hold onto. That might be an option for you, instead of the walker all the time. No way to sit down, but if you plan your trips from seat to seat, you might find it quite liberating I hope you can manage to get around better, so you don't feel so dependent on Paul. I never had a problem with seagulls being too aggressive, though since they often land around people in whole flocks, I can see that being intimidating, especially for children. Makes me annoyed at the father who chastised his son for "letting" the seagulls get his fish. I thought it was a parents job to protect and teach their kids. I really hope the whole process of moving around more and getting your medication helps you feel a whole lot better. Hugs
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Post by jolovespiggies on Sept 7, 2016 8:37:32 GMT
That is exactly what I do Bean love, I use the walls, furniture or anything else for support. I am just so frightened of falling again because my balance is rubbish. I am now walking without my walking aid around the house except for going too the lavatory; I do need it to get me up again as there is nothing to hold onto in the bathroom. Yesterday we had a drive to the beach and it was lovely, I manage to have a bit of a walk. Saw people playing ball with their doggies and then we went for a meal, it was gorgeous.
I agree that gulls can be intimidating for children and I entirely agree with you about the father of the boy who lost his fish to a seagull. I didn't actually witness it Paul did but by all accounts, he wasn't a very nice type, for a start he swore out loud in public. The least he should have done was buy his little boy another fish.
Thank you for your good wishes hunni, I too hope that my mobility improves if slowly, I just wish the pain would go away. Chat soon.
Lots of love Jo xxx
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Post by jolovespiggies on Sept 7, 2016 8:38:41 GMT
Sorry Piggles hunni, I thanked Bean instead of you for the last message. Don't know where my head is this morning.
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Post by 3piggles on Sept 7, 2016 16:02:51 GMT
No problem, Jo I had some bad falls, so it took quite a while to build up my confidence. I used to use the cane in the house constantly. Now, I walk without it most of the time, unless my balance is really off, and I do still have those days. Glad you had a fun outing I hope that took your mind off the pain for a while I get really annoyed with parents who swear at and berate their children at all, much less in public. I can attest, first hand, that the children never overcome the damage parents do, when they berate and constantly criticize their children. The lesson that boy learned was to not tick off his father, and to respond to problems with foul language, yelling and blame placing
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Post by Bean on Sept 8, 2016 8:43:02 GMT
I know kids can really try your patience (although I'm not sure how a forthright bird nicking your fish could be your fault!), but when you think about what makes you do your best and want to do the right thing at work or in relationships with family/ friends, it's not people belittling you (especially publicly) or treating you with contempt or anger. You learn different lessons altogether from people treating you that way, whether you're a kid or an adult.
Jo, can occupational health fit you some bathroom rails to make it easier for you to move around in there? Hope you are having a better day today. xx
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Post by jolovespiggies on Sept 8, 2016 8:47:56 GMT
I nearly fell over again last night Piggles love, it was quite a nasty scare. It wasn't my balance this time though, my slipper was caught in the door partition. Today I am taking my walker with me everywhere. I find I am dizzy when I stand up so I have to hang onto something for a while then too. Whilst I was well off for things as a child, I was constantly criticised too and compared to other children and I really think it has done some damage. I have never been confident and have always had a low opinion of myself. My father wanted me to "Get On" as he called it and my mother never went against my father. A horrid thing to say but when my father died I had this wonderful sense of freedom. I don't like seeing children told off in public piggles love, not like that anyway. Although I must admit that when I see a child having a tantrum I want to smack its bottom lol! Pain not to bad today so far, I was in a lovely sleep when the cleaner turned up lol Hugs Jo xx
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Post by Bean on Sept 8, 2016 9:05:49 GMT
Sorry you got your slipper caught and had a fright thinking you were going to fall - I'm really glad you didn't, but it must have been scary. Good call taking your walker everywhere with you today to make sure you feel safe. It's good you don't have as much pain today. xx
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Post by 3piggles on Sept 8, 2016 17:07:37 GMT
I had similar parents. Growing up was all about living up to their standards, making them look good, etc. It was never about developing as an individual, just tow the line. I, too, feel guilty about it, but I don't miss my parents, and felt a huge sense of relief when my mother died. I really don't want my daughter to feel that way about me, so I no longer try to even guide her. She's an adult. Her decisions are hers to make, and to live with. If she asks for my advice or opinion, I'll give it to her. She can do what she wants with it. Hubby and I discuss her, wishing she would change some of her ways, but we don't say anything to her about it anymore. She has a partner, and it's his job now, not ours. We just try to be as supportive as possible. I agree, Jo, it upsets me to see parents treating their children badly in public, especially since it's pretty much given that they treat their kids the same way at home. I also agree that my feelings don't extend to bratty, out of control kids in public. I was at the supermarket the other day. I child in a carriage in the check out line was screaming at the top of his lungs, and his mother was acting as if he didn't exist and she didn't hear anything. Everyone else in the store heard every squall from him I'm sorry you had a scare. You're still learning your limitations, but you've accomplished a lot. My balance goes quite often, and I need something to hold onto, so I know how you feel. Use the walker, and feel safe again Ugh to the cleaner disturbing the first really good sleep you've had in a long time
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Post by jolovespiggies on Sept 9, 2016 8:29:10 GMT
It was Bean love, that horrid feeling you get in your Tummy when you first stumble so I am now taking less risks and sing my walking aid. I probably won't get my balance back until I have my built up shoe.
It is awful the way our parents made us feel love. I have just been chatting with Tracey who does our cleaning for us and she says that everything went wrong when they brought in this no smacking law. I agree that there are many kiddies who get beaten and that is despicable but we need a happy medium. I think you sound a great mum and the way you deal with things with your daughter is good. Sometimes when a child has a tantrum ignoring it is the best thing to do but not in public when they are causing a nuisance to everyone else.
Lots of love to you both. Jo xxxx
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Post by jolovespiggies on Sept 9, 2016 8:29:34 GMT
Oh meant to say, pain not too bad today either which is great.
Hugs Jo xx
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Post by Bean on Sept 9, 2016 8:29:53 GMT
I remember the first public tantrum my son had - he was on the way to nursery one day. I can't even remember what it was over (other than something trivial) but he lay down on the path and was yelling and banging his arms and fists on the concrete. As there was no one around I just sat down on the wall and left him to it.
After a few minutes he started losing steam and looked to see what I was doing (which was ignoring him). He looked a bit miffed and stood up - I asked if he was ready to continue our journey and he nodded yes with a confused look on his face and that was that.
He hardly had any other pod ons like that, and I'm sure it was down to the fact it didn't get him anywhere. I think often when kids have tantrums in public, parents are embarrassed, so pander to them to keep them quiet. It just means the kids learn it's a good technique to get attention or treats.
So while parents ignoring tantrumming kids in public may be annoying, I don't think it's a bad technique as long as you're consistent about it! (Unless you're on a plane, in which case, do whatever you need to to shut them up for everyone's sake!)
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Post by 3piggles on Sept 9, 2016 13:55:14 GMT
I understand what the mother was doing, but there are two sides to the temper tantrums; training the child, and destroying the peace for everyone in the whole building. Daughter tried that a few times. I took my shopping cart to the customer service desk, and told them I had to take her to the car, and would be back for my cart. So throwing a temper tantrum in a store got her taken to the car, removed from the whole place that had the things she wanted but I wouldn't let her have.
Also, if I knew she'd be hungry, I would buy a bunch of bananas and give her one to eat while we shopped. I always told the check out clerk that I had taken one out, but I don't think they ever charged me for it. It meant they didn't have to hear the temper tantrum, and they were grateful for that. Ignoring is one option, and when no one else is around, probably the best one, but not in a crowded store.
I'm surprised stores don't have 'time out' rooms for screaming children. They wouldn't have to listen to the temper tantrum or the customer complaints.
Buses and airplanes are traps, lol! No getting away from it there.
Jo, I stopped wearing slippers, and got some slip-on, light weight shoes instead. I had mules before that, the slip-on, no back style, and they were a nightmare. So changing your slippers might help you get a better footing.
Sorry to hear you were really off balance last night, too. That's just scary, and we don't really want to take what seems like a really big risk, and walk very far. Then we sit far too much, and do ourselves more damage.
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Post by jolovespiggies on Sept 10, 2016 14:35:52 GMT
I agree Bean darling, ignoring them and pretending to be doing something else is ideal if you have the patience to do it, I would just want to smack the little b....r lol. It is like when they start crying for something which really didn't hurt, they look all around the room to see if they are getting any attention. when they see that they are not, they decide not to cry as it isn't worth it lol!! That was a good way of dealing with your child's tantrums Piggles sweetie, taking her back to the car and denying her the chance to see lots of nice things and the possibility of mum buying something for her.
I have some little full fronted slippers now so there is nothing to trip me up. I still have to be very careful when walking on my own but I am doing a bit more each day. I am not saying the pain has lessened at all but for some reason I am coping with it well at the moment. The cravings for chocolate is almost unbearable, I wish there were a cure for it.
Hugs Jo xx
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