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Post by shades on Jun 8, 2019 1:53:24 GMT
Here's mine. I think it's quite small. You just add whatever to the grinding part, put on the lid to keep everything inside, then put the top of the machine on. Press the top down for five seconds and you're done. So easy
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Post by 3piggles on Jun 8, 2019 15:42:48 GMT
Nice, and if you do a lot of grinding, worth their weight in gold
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Post by shades on Jun 9, 2019 10:30:49 GMT
You know what it's like when you've got a new toy - an endless list of things to grind
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Post by 3piggles on Jun 9, 2019 20:37:48 GMT
A loaf of bread in the bread machine takes about 3 hours from start to finish. I took the machine out of the box, put it on the counter, and hubby asked me where the bread was, lol
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Post by Bean on Jun 10, 2019 14:39:23 GMT
Ha! I know modern life moves quickly, but that's pushing it a bit. You know what it's like when you've got a new toy - an endless list of things to grind How about the rest of that packet of cornflakes you didn't finish? Oh what's so bad about cornflakes by the way, Shades? Is it the corn, the added sugar or the processing that gives it the high GI rating, or perhaps a combo? (I never eat the things anyway, my homemade granola is the only cereal I like - I'm just curious!)
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Post by 3piggles on Jun 10, 2019 18:42:10 GMT
Considering all the bad things in corn flakes, and that they're totally tasteless, I can't believe they ever got as popular as they did.
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Post by shades on Jun 11, 2019 7:43:39 GMT
How about the rest of that packet of cornflakes you didn't finish? Oh what's so bad about cornflakes by the way, Shades? Is it the corn, the added sugar or the processing that gives it the high GI rating, or perhaps a combo? (I never eat the things anyway, my homemade granola is the only cereal I like - I'm just curious!) It's a processed food, not what your grandma recommended... An 80g serving of boiled corn on the cob has a glycemic load of 8 - an acceptable level. 30g of Kellogg's cornflakes hits 19 on the scale. Your insulin will go through the roof, and you'll immediately be in fat storage mode. And that's before we've even looked at the ingredients...
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Post by shades on Jun 11, 2019 7:47:34 GMT
Barely any fat and protein, but 82% carbs. Not as healthy as we might imagine.
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Post by Bean on Jun 11, 2019 7:55:49 GMT
I know brands vary, but the ones I've seen are just maize, sugar and a few vitamins. Not a balanced meal, and of course adding sugar to stuff is never good. But that's most cereals for you! I don't like them either, although a few in flapjacks gives a nice crunch!
I've just had a quick google and it looks like it's the fact the maize is refined rather than the whole grain being used (apparently if you leave the good stuff in, they go off too quickly), so all the fibre and nutrition is removed. So it's basically like white bread/ pasta, but with more sugar added.
I've just been reminded of the origin of cornflakes which always makes me chuckle (that they were intended to eliminate self-love and other sexual behaviours) but have also just read that when the Kellogg brothers separated and one brother set up his own company making cereals, he ran an ad campaign saying women could get a free box of cereal if they winked at their grocer! Aaah happy days!
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Post by Bean on Jun 11, 2019 7:58:42 GMT
Oh you snuck in before me, Shades!
My main issue with cereal has always been my hatred of the taste of milk (I like yogurt and cheese though). I know you can get loads of other milks now, but it's not something I want to try to emulate!
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Post by shades on Jun 11, 2019 8:05:17 GMT
You gotta be faster!
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Post by shades on Jun 11, 2019 8:18:02 GMT
You know what happens when you have cereal/grains for breakfast. You get your insulin spike, then it all comes crashing down after a few hours and you have to reach for the bananas
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Post by Bean on Jun 12, 2019 7:10:36 GMT
It's probably because I've been curbing my snacks lately, so am actually low on banana power! I'm currently reading How Not To Die which is a very interesting book about how nutrition affects health. The author is very much an advocate of a plant-based diet (not necessarily a complete exclusion of meat, fish and dairy, but, with them being a minimal part of the diet, especially while factory farming is the norm) with all the advice he gives backed up by scientific research. It discusses numerous diseases individually, and what the research points to as having contributed and what seems to be able to reverse it. It does just highlight what a cruddy job we're doing of feeding ourselves in the Western world, with all our processed convenience foods and lack of fresh produce. It's insane that the medical profession stays in the pocket of Big Pharma instead of empowering people to take control of their health more naturally. I'd love to see that change in my lifetime.
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Post by 3piggles on Jun 12, 2019 15:52:25 GMT
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Post by Bean on Jun 13, 2019 9:11:07 GMT
I've seen it mentioned about using crushed cornflakes as a coating, but am very dubious about it! I'm not really motivated to try either.
Cereal makers do use the fact they have loads of vitamins and minerals added to try to make them sound healthy - don't bother eating proper food with loads of nutrients and fibre in, have this processed crud with them added, it's just as good!
In the news this morning, there was an article about folic acid being added to bread to reduce cases of spina bifida. The angle of 'we're not eating enough of this good stuff, so are getting an increase in diseases that are more common in developing countries that suffer with malnutrition - we need to eat better to help prevent all these things' isn't even mentioned, it's just authorities taking over and adding a sticking plaster so we can carry on ignoring how poor our diets are and the damage we're doing. Of course anyone would want to see the incidence of spina bifida reduced, but we're just not encouraged to empower ourselves regarding our health.
There are an increasing amount of people who don't eat bread anyway, and there are quite a few articles about the potential harmful effects of having too much folic acid, which someone who ate loads of leafy greens and a decent amount of bread could easily do.
(I nipped off for a swim in between loading this page and writing my post, so will just check Shades hasn't muscled in before I press reply...)
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Post by 3piggles on Jun 13, 2019 16:15:44 GMT
Too many people are too easily led by advertising, and don't bother, or aren't smart enough to do the research for themselves. Triscuits, a rather salty cracker, great for putting cheese on for a snack, is advertising it's non-genetically modified. That's been the whole basis to it's ad campaign for a couple of years. Nothing about the excessive amount of sodium. They don't want us thinking about that, just about what they're telling us. Triscuits are good for us, because they don't use genetically modified wheat. Ad campaigns are geared to people with a 13-year-old mentality, which apparently is most people. Just as when I worked as a newspaper reported, and was told to dumb down the language to "brick layer English," ads are dumbed down to reach the majority of the population. And just as newspaper articles are often wrong or misleading, but using the most simple language and terms, ads are too. Politicians talk in sound bites, geared to get the attention of the masses, without taxing them with too much thinking. Just rally behind the candidate, and vote. It's a sad comment on Western Civilization
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Post by Bean on Jun 14, 2019 6:58:30 GMT
I agree companies spend too much time telling us lies about their products to make them sound like they're great for us.
There are plans to stop junk food companies advertising on kids' tv here. Plus the mayor of London has banned junk food adverts on the London transport network, something he faced major criticism over (because of the loss of funding for TfL, and also trying to tell people what they should or shouldn't be eating "If I want to cost the NHS thousands because I eat crud, that's my choice - no one else's!").
So Shades, what's your take on why we're always being told that breakfast is the most important meal of the day, and why schools get so much funding to provide breakfasts for their pupils in the belief that it will help them to learn better? Apparently there's lots of scientific research to back this up, but maybe it's that they're only in need of that meal because their blood sugar levels are bouncing around from eating too many sugary foods at other times? It's a message that gets laboured quite intensively.
The worst thing is that the foods they serve are pretty much always more processed than what I'd feed my kids at home, so this healthy start is anything but. My two used to love occasionally going to the breakfast club at their old school because they served the sugar-laden cereals I won't buy, and also white bread.
I think their current school serves fruit, but alongside white bagels and cornflakes.
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Post by 3piggles on Jun 14, 2019 14:52:08 GMT
We've been trained to eat three meals a day. I don't know if we need to, or if that's another thing we started doing because someone told us we should. I remember reading about kings having huge, pig-out meals that lasted for hours, once a day, not the three meals we eat now. I think it's about what we've been trained to think we need, and how we've trained our bodies to react. Retraining them could be really difficult, especially for people with blood sugar or metabolism problems. We'd need to fix those problems first, and that would just be adding more drugs to a system that's already running on drugs
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Post by Bean on Jun 14, 2019 19:00:49 GMT
We've had it hammered into us so much that when my kids say they're not hungry before they head off to school, I have always wanted to encourage them to eat something, thinking it's good for them. But now I tend to think if they're not hungry, maybe they just don't need to eat right then. They have a much better ability to eat big enough meals to sustain them for a longer time, meals that would make me feel too full.
The only times I've skipped breakfast in my whole life is the few times I've had a stomach bug overnight and not wanted to eat first thing (a few hours later is fine though!).
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Post by 3piggles on Jun 15, 2019 18:53:13 GMT
I've skipped lunch many times, and by late afternoon, I'm shaky, light headed and nauseous. I seem to be able to skip breakfast, but I don't, simply because it's how I start my day. I have a cup of decaf coffee, and at least a banana. It's not habit, as I never used to eat breakfast. It's more my choice of how I want to start the day.
I think, as long as they have access to healthy food should they need it, letting them skip breakfast is fine. It's a radical departure from the insistence that we HAVE to eat three balanced meals per day. I also think the balance should be per day, not per meal. We might eat part of the food pyramid at one meal, and the rest at another meal. The idea of having to eat a balanced meal led to having much larger portions than we needed. When we had to have meat, potato, veg, bread, milk, salad, etc., all to have that balanced meal, we probably eat two to three times the amount of food we really needed. If a banana will see my through to lunch time, why do I need steak and eggs?
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