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Post by Clover on Jan 21, 2005 17:28:58 GMT
I've had to take Squeekie to the vets this afternoon because he was looking depressed and was eating his cucumber and pepper very slowly as though he was struggling to eat. Also, I can hardly get any rumbles out of him so I know he's not himself.
My vet thinks he may have a back molar thats slightly got an edge to it. She's given me some recovery and he's also had pain relief. Theres no broken skin in his mouth, but something is definatly bothering him.
I'll feed him regular, fingers crossed Squeekie will be alright. If he dosn't pick up he may need further investigations. My poor Squeekie, its the first time he's been poorly. He's been ever so good while I'm syringe feeding him, I think he likes the taste. I'll let you all know how my little boy is doing.
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Post by skipperdoo on Jan 21, 2005 23:26:10 GMT
What is recovery? My vet has been able to check my guinea pigs teeth with just a tool that she puts in their mouth ... it has a light and see can see to the back of the mouth. That's also how she found Tyler's points on his teeth. She doesn't sedate them.
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Post by Alix on Jan 22, 2005 6:51:05 GMT
Aww I hope little Sqeakie gets well soon! Good timing with you av, hey Jackie!
Poor little man mustn't feel very good at all.
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Post by Clover on Jan 22, 2005 7:08:49 GMT
What is recovery? My vet has been able to check my guinea pigs teeth with just a tool that she puts in their mouth ... it has a light and see can see to the back of the mouth. That's also how she found Tyler's points on his teeth. She doesn't sedate them. Recovery is a liquid food, I imagine its like Critical Care. Yes my vet used a tool with a light which showed one suspect tooth. They may need to sedate him to have a better look if he dosn't improve. I wish I lived near CCT as they use a clamp, but my vets don't use them. I've been feeding him through the night but its got to the stage of having to force feed him, even with syringes of water to. At 5am he managed to nibble on abit of parsley, but he's struggling and took a while to eat it. These things always seem to happen at weekend. I'm going to ring the vets when they open and see what they think. Squeekie still has the energy to leap up to me when he thinks I've finished bless him but he's still depressed. Oh I've just seen your post aL, thanks so much! |
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Post by skipperdoo on Jan 22, 2005 8:15:14 GMT
How far are you from the Cavy Trust?
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Post by Clover on Jan 22, 2005 14:06:33 GMT
I'm not exactly sure how many miles but its at least a 4 hour journey to get there and we don't have a car. I remember asking about the clamp a while ago and they did say using something like that can be very stressful for a piggy, but I imagine CCT are very experienced using one.
Squeekie has been back to the vets and they have made an appointment for him on monday as they do think it could be a tooth problem. Meanwhile I'll be handfeeding him and hopefully build up his strength for monday. I've also bought some vitamin C for him because he's not eating any veggies.
He did a little rumble when I put him back in with Clover and Peachy so thats a good sign.
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Post by skipperdoo on Jan 22, 2005 17:39:39 GMT
Okay ... we'll be sending lots of healing vibes and good thoughts ... be prepared!  Keep us posted. |
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Post by Bean on Jan 23, 2005 10:38:09 GMT
Aww I'm so sorry to hear Squeekie's not been too well. I hope the handfeeding is going well, and that he's still reasonably okay.
My vet uses the buccal pad separators but he still uses a bit of anaesthetic just to calm them (the otoscopes are good but I don't think they show things as well as when you have the mouth fully open). It is great if the CCT can do it all without anaesthetic, but if you haven't got one within a reasonable distance then you have to weigh up the pros and cons of a more stressful journey for them, compared to a bit of anaethetic. I know my vet didn't use full sedation like he would with an operation, just whiffs of the isoflurane really.
Hopefully if Squeekie has got a problem with his teeth, it'll just be a one off. Zigs did have a tooth that grew at a slight angle, but he managed to keep it in check himself most of the time, he only needed it fixing the once. At least you know that your vets have been good when Fiver's had teeth problems, but if he did need regular treatment, you could find out if there's a trained rodentologist near you.
I'll keep my fingers crossed for him at the vets tomorrow. Give him a hug from me and I'll be thinking of you both.
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Post by Izzy on Jan 23, 2005 19:00:42 GMT
Can't add anything helpful, I just want to say that I really hope Squeekie recovers, I'm thinking of you both.
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Post by Alix on Jan 23, 2005 21:59:13 GMT
I'm sorry he's not doing any better still, Jackie... The poor little bloke probably feels so miserable! I really hope you and your vet can get to the bottom of it for him so he feels better.
Keep us posted.
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Post by skipperdoo on Jan 24, 2005 10:32:47 GMT
How are things today?
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Post by Clover on Jan 24, 2005 16:50:04 GMT
Aww thanks so much Treen, Kathy, Izzy and aL.
Well Squeekie went in for his operation this morning and I'm glad to say he's come through it alright. The operation took longer than expected though because poor Squeekie did have an overgrown molar right at the back. My poor little boy also had a sore/ulcer on his cheek, where the tooth had been rubbing. So its no wonder he was very depressed and couldn't eat. They think the wound will heal over especially now his teeth have been ground down. I just knew it was something like that because he was struggling to eat and kept dropping his food, plus looking depressed.
I didn't want him to have to stay overnight, but I can understand their reasons. They just want to make sure he starts eating by himself, plus they want to give him more pain relief in a few hours. So I'll be picking him up tommorow afternoon. I'm just keeping my fingers crossed that he has a good night.
It feels so strange that he's not with Clover and Peachy. I'm sure the girls knew that something was wrong with Squeekie as Clover was grooming him yesterday bless her.
They couldn't tell me if the problem would come back again, only time will tell, the vet is at the smaller clinic tommorow so I'll be able to talk things over better.
Thanks again for wishing Squeekie well, I'll make another phone call at teatime to see how he is.
Sorry I forgot to mention Treen, there is a Rodentologist called Gina from Warrington so I might give Gina a call if the problem starts happening again.
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Post by skipperdoo on Jan 25, 2005 5:52:16 GMT
Glad you found out what was wrong and it's resolved. Tyler had to stay at the vet's house for nearly a week and I was glad since she knows a bit more than I do and is more comptent in her ability to give fluids, meds. etc. He also had to have his tooth filed down and will need to have his checked a couple times a year.
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Post by Clover on Jan 25, 2005 6:55:12 GMT
Thats good Kathy about Tyler only needing his teeth checked twice a year. Fingers crossed it won't be an on-going problem with Squeekie.
Well just a few more hours to go, I rang at teatime and they said he was walking about. Hopefully he's started eating abit on his own, depending how his cheek is.
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Post by Alix on Jan 25, 2005 8:18:35 GMT
Aww I'm happy that Squeakie did ok. Lets hope he gets home and heals up ok.
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Post by Bean on Jan 25, 2005 12:00:27 GMT
Aww I'm so glad Squeekie came through his operation okay and that they found and fixed the problem. It must have been so hard not having him back with you last night, but I hope he's rumbling around with his ladyfriends later on today.
Hopefully with the pain relief his eating will pick up quite quickly, but he has an excellent piggy nurse if he needs a bit of extra help for a few days.
Fingers crossed for him being snuggled up at home later today.
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Post by Bean on Jan 26, 2005 9:26:37 GMT
Lots of cuddles to little Squeekie - hope he's doing well back home, and that his mouth isn't as sore now.
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Post by Clover on Jan 26, 2005 14:14:31 GMT
Thanks so much aL and Treen.
When Squeekie arrived home he was still very depressed and has lost another 2oz while being at the vets. I've been handfeeding him all night and he's having probiotic, but he's still very depressed, I'm very concerned about him. I keep offering bits of veggies and grass but he's not interested.
I rang CCT this morning, and Pauline was very helpful, like alot of piggy people, she didn't think he should have been sedated. From what the vet said he was under quite a while. I've put him in my 'hospital cage' as I call it so I can see what he's producing.
He's still managing to jump in my arms when he thinks I've finished feeding him, but I can see he dosn't have alot of energy.
I'm going to buy some oral gel called Daktarin which CCT suggested so hopefully that will help his mouth to be less sore.
Hes just over 2lb now which is very worrying. I'll let you know how my Squeekie is doing, I'm off to the vets again in the morning, maybe they'll give him some pain relief.
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Post by Bean on Jan 26, 2005 18:01:41 GMT
Aww I'm sorry he's still not feeling like eating. I'm sure you're doing a great job handfeeding him, but it is hard to get as much in to them as they do themselves isn't it - not surprising when you think they chomp practically all day. How are his poops looking? Is he churning out enough for you to be confident things are ticking along okay?
Good luck at the vets tomorrow. I hope they can check and find that the problem definitely has been sorted and that they can give him some pain relief to help him feel better about eating.
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Post by skipperdoo on Jan 27, 2005 4:44:25 GMT
Tyler lost weight for the first week and then he started gaining it back when he started healing a bit. Maybe that's what's happening?
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Keep us posted.
