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Post by Annessa (TimsCavyPrincess) on Jun 11, 2005 16:34:45 GMT
[glow=lime,2,300]I took my boy into be neutered and everything went well. Now I have him home and one side of the area is swelled up really big, hard like a rock and all black and blue. Is this normal? The other side is just a little swelled and seems to be fine. Also, they went and trimmed his teeth without me knowing and now they are all broken, the vet obviously didnt do a good job. They made them so short he cant eat so I hand fed him last night and shedded up some baby carrots for him to eat. Any other suggestions on ways to make his pellets easier to eat?[/glow]
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Post by Merry on Jun 11, 2005 22:48:19 GMT
The swelling is NOT normal. I say get him back to the vet's ASAP. Also, you might try posting at Guinea Lynx as they are a medical forum.
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Post by Clover on Jun 12, 2005 6:58:06 GMT
My boys had a slight swelling, but nothing really big, so like Merry has suggested Annessa, I'd get him to the vets as soon as possible. From your email, he sounds very uncomfortable to if he can hardly walk. Both my boys walked straight away and although my Squeekie kept raising his bottom now and again while holding him, there was no visible bruising or large swelling.
Did the vet say why they trimmed his teeth? They should have asked you first, ( unless they could see something was wronge ) as he wasn't having any teeth problems was he. Was it the front teeth or any of the molars to?
For now, syringe feeding him is a good idea, are you giving him a pellet mash/slurry regular with a syringe as well as some carrot? If you just make small amounts of pellet mash each time your ready to syringe feed, then its always fresh. I soak a few pellets for an hour, then add a little hot water to take the chill out ( cheak the temperature first, like you would with a babies bottle). You could also offer him some soft pellets, just to see if he'll eat them himself.
Also he will need a vitamin C supplement. You can buy 100mg tablets, make a tablet into a quarter so that he has 25mg a day. I usually grind it and put it into some water in a glass and syringe feed it several times a day to a poorly piggy. Not all at once, as it can upset their tum. If you keep a lid on it and store it in a cool, dark place (I use a kitchen cupboard) so then its not exposed to light and heat. Just a reminder, it has to be just vit c and not a multivitamin.
Is he drinking at all, you'll need to give him regular syringes of water to.
Still offer him small chopped soft veggies regular, like red or green bell pepper, a little parsley, fresh grass, just to tempt him.
Good luck at the vets, I hope he'll be alright.
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Post by skipperdoo on Jun 12, 2005 7:19:50 GMT
He needs to see a vet ASAP and it may need to be another vet if this one is not guinea-pig-knowledgeable. Are you sure the teeth are splintered? I'd tell them that the pig needs to be seen and while you're there, ask why the teeth were trimmed and indicate that they are splinted and now he can't eat properly.
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Post by Susie on Jun 12, 2005 8:56:41 GMT
I agree he needs to see a vet and if he is unable to eat properly for himself he needs more than a suppliment he needs you to feed him. You need something course like oxbow crittical care to help him with his teeth which you can sweeten with organic baby food (you know the veg pigs can have).
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Post by Clover on Jun 12, 2005 10:16:06 GMT
I meant to mention, did your vet give you any after care tips after his neutering operation.? He should be living on newspaper and towels. Its nice and soft for the area, plus you can see better if there's any sign of blood/infection. Hay still needs to be in the corner of the cage, (even though I know he's not eating) it should still be available.
I really hope he'll be alright, if he's not eating at all on his own, you'll need to give him night feeds to.
Can you buy oxbow crittical care from your American vets Kathy?, in England they offer 'Recovery' which is similar, but I believe it isn't as good as Oxbow. Thats another reason I like Oxbow's Cavy Cuisine pellets, very high in fibre, compared to a lot of pellets, so it also makes a good pellet slurry.
Please let us know how you get on at the vets, is there an emergency number you could ring, with it being sunday. Like Kathy has mentioned, maybe finding another vet thats more piggy knowledgeable is a good idea. Meanwhile keep syringe feeding, as you don't want his digestive system going wrong.
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Post by skipperdoo on Jun 12, 2005 15:51:37 GMT
Can you buy oxbow crittical care from your American vets Kathy?, in England they offer 'Recovery' which is similar, but I believe it isn't as good as Oxbow. Thats another reason I like Oxbow's Cavy Cuisine pellets, very high in fibre, compared to a lot of pellets, so it also makes a good pellet slurry. Yes, and I ordered a tub of it directly from Oxbow. They will overnight it if necessary.
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Post by Clover on Jun 13, 2005 6:58:20 GMT
Thats very good Kathy!
Hope your little boy is alright Annessa.
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Post by Alix on Jun 13, 2005 9:26:05 GMT
I hope he's ok Anessa, when my Bazz got neutered he didn't get any large swelling at all so I'd say get him to a vet - preferably a different one to the one who performed this operation! He could cost the life of your animal.
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Post by Annessa (TimsCavyPrincess) on Jun 13, 2005 15:15:17 GMT
[glow=lime,2,300]I have been hand feeding him. I took him back that day after I got him home and asked about the teeth. She kept argueing with me saying he could eat when he couldnt. so now im putting him food in a blender and hand feeding him.
Well now the swelling seems to be going down a little but his leg is so hard and swollen to where he had surgery. Its like his leg broke and the bones fused together. I took him to another vet and they said they dont know whats wrong but because he is in so much pain they dont want to stress him out. They told me to wait about a week after the surgery and see how he does. So im taking him in tomarow to get checked out.
She didnt tell me anything to do after his op. She said dont give him pain meds because it could kill him. But I did some research online and found a pain med that wil be okay for him. I hold him everyday in a towel to clean his wounds and i hold a little towel with warm water on his op area. It seems to make him feel alot better and help the swelling!
Im gonna keep my fingers crossed! Ive decided im NEVER getting another gp fixed again! Not after this![/glow]
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Post by skipperdoo on Jun 14, 2005 5:29:58 GMT
Did the vet give you any pain/anti-inflammatory meds? I've used Metacam.
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Post by Clover on Jun 14, 2005 8:22:25 GMT
A vet should only give out pain relief and she should have offered him some. He's going to be more stressed because of the pain, so I can't believe the other vets didn't give him some pain relief either. Rimadyl is another safe pain relief. Is there any puss/bleeding at all from the incisions? Did they not offer any antibiotic either?, safe antibiotics include Baytril and Bactrim. Both my boys was on antibiotics for 5 days after surgery and pain relief to see them through the first 24 hrs. Could have been longer if it was necessary. Post surgery care is very important and plays a large role in a guinea pigs recovery after an operation and it seems the vet failed to offer you any advice. I really think you need to go back Annessa and insist on a safe antibiotic and pain relief. If your worried at all about insisting, maybe one of your parents could go with you.? Can I ask what the new vet thought about his teeth being so badly cut?, did they look at them at all? It might help if you print some information about meds from Guinea Lynx,and show the vet. Here is the link. guinealynx.info/medications.htmlI'll be rooting for him.
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Post by Merry on Jun 14, 2005 18:35:31 GMT
Doesn't sound like a very good vet at all. I really hope he's okay
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Post by Trillian on Jun 16, 2005 22:14:43 GMT
I'm shocked that neither vet gave him any meds at all. Neither vet sounds like they know anyhing about guinea pigs. When I had one of my sows spayed she was put on antibiotics (baytril) and metacam for swelling and pain. As long as you get the right meds they are safe and help your pet recover much quicker form surgery. I would call one of them back and ask about Metacam and Baytril.
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Post by Annessa (TimsCavyPrincess) on Jun 20, 2005 18:31:36 GMT
[glow=lime,2,300]Well its been a bit since the surgery. We took him back to show the vet what she had done. His incision was covered in puss and blood. So she gave me some rub to put on it and some smz meds.I stopped giving him the rub and started using this powder that we used on the dogs when they had stitches to keep it dry. [/glow]
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Post by Annessa (TimsCavyPrincess) on Jun 20, 2005 18:36:44 GMT
[glow=lime,2,300]As for insisting, my mom went with me each time and tried to nicely explain things, my mom is extremly knowledgable with animals. But me on the other hand I was kicking and screaming the whole time. I should have been a bit calmer but she almost killed my baby! She did give all the meds and the 2nd surgery for free, which she SHOULD have done anyway but most vets wouldnt. [/glow]
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Post by samnbud on Jun 20, 2005 19:21:19 GMT
Wow what a story! May i ask what the reason was why you had him neutured? I am astonished at this vet! I dont kow if I could have went back! Unless it was to do some serious complaining!!
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Post by skipperdoo on Jun 21, 2005 6:19:03 GMT
Keep an eye out for any signs of infection and make sure that you continue the antibiotics at least one week beyond when the symtoms disappear. Hopefully, the antibiotic is strong enough. Glad he's feeling better.
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Post by Annessa (TimsCavyPrincess) on Jun 21, 2005 18:20:08 GMT
[glow=lime,2,300]sam- I had him neutered because he was going to be caged with his mom. I didnt want any breeding.
I give him the meds 2 times a day till I run out which wont be for a while.
We cut all the infection out but I still have to clean it everyday to make sure it doesnt come back.[/glow]
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Post by Clover on Jun 22, 2005 10:59:29 GMT
[glow=lime,2,300]Well its been a bit since the surgery. We took him back to show the vet what she had done. His incision was covered in puss and blood. So she gave me some rub to put on it and some smz meds.I stopped giving him the rub and started using this powder that we used on the dogs when they had stitches to keep it dry. [/glow] Sorry, but what is smz meds? Is the powder safe for guinea pigs?, its just that he could ingest some. I'm so sorry he's having such an awful time, I really do think the vet failed to do her job properly to help his recovery. He shouldn't have had to go through all this misery. Annessa, I'm so sorry, but I modified your post on the other page when it should have been a quote. I hope you'll be able to put the information back in. Its your last post on the first page. Again I'm really sorry for the mistake.
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