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Post by bazookagoof on Oct 30, 2021 15:08:49 GMT
I still want to do the cold water treatments, but I think for the cold weather season I'll use cool water and not ice-cold. I don't know if I'll be getting any benefits by not going full-blast, but I don't want to get out of the habit and never go back.
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Post by 3piggles on Oct 30, 2021 20:37:46 GMT
A few times should tell you if the warmer version is still working. If it's not, Google the situation and see what other people have done about that problem. Other people might have found solutions you can use.
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Post by bazookagoof on Dec 18, 2021 1:33:26 GMT
I'm still soaking my elbows with cold water during my showers, but no more full-body soaks until the weather gets nicer.
Also, I managed to buy an elbow support. I only bought one, I want to see if it makes any difference. If it doesn't, I only spent half the money! I suppose it may be difficult to gauge its effectiveness; usually when I have a particularly rough day, the next day is also bad because my body hasn't recovered yet. We'll see what happens.
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Post by 3piggles on Dec 18, 2021 19:27:19 GMT
Wear it on your dominant arm, as that takes the most punishment. I hope it helps, though I think you'll still need to do the cold water soaks of the elbow, in the shower. If anything, it might help enough that once you do the cold water soaks, you will feel noticeably better.
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Post by bazookagoof on Dec 18, 2021 19:56:27 GMT
Wear it on your dominant arm, as that takes the most punishment. I hope it helps, though I think you'll still need to do the cold water soaks of the elbow, in the shower. If anything, it might help enough that once you do the cold water soaks, you will feel noticeably better. Yes, I started with the right arm- I figured I needed to preserve the good side as long as I can. I will stick with the cold showers, also. The arms DO feel better afterwards, even if only for a few hours.
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Post by bazookagoof on Jan 11, 2022 1:01:02 GMT
I finally got around to purchasing a second elbow support for my left arm. I tried it out at work today and had some success; for the earlier part of the day the pain was manageable- more of a dull pain instead of a stabbing one.
However, the pressure went up after awhile and I had to help clean up several messes, and the increased workload made my arms ache terribly. If I can do my regular workload, things should be acceptable. It's when they throw me a curveball and expect me to work like a 20-year-old is when the plan goes out the window.
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Post by Bean on Jan 11, 2022 8:39:20 GMT
I'm glad the support helped a bit, but not a great start to the week from the sounds of it? Hope it gets better as the week goes on.
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Post by 3piggles on Jan 11, 2022 13:10:25 GMT
At least you know the support will help, if you can maintain a decent workload. That's a step in the right direction. Try not working like a 20-year-old, and working at a rate your body can manage. They want 20-somethings, they should ask the 20-somethings to do those jobs. They don't pay enough for you to kill yourself.
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Post by bazookagoof on Jan 12, 2022 0:40:30 GMT
I'll go into more detail in the "work" thread, but my new rule is that if something is insanely heavy, I will ignore it. Usually I can shove a 140 pound box into the trailer without killing myself if I can get the leverage and momentum. However, sometimes you run into a box that is only 90 pounds, but you can't get it to move because it's so solid. This sort of thing I leave for the younger guys to muscle into the truck. My days of being able to do that ended a few years ago.
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Post by 3piggles on Jan 12, 2022 20:27:05 GMT
I am constantly reminded I'm not as young as I used to be. That time catches up with all of us eventually. You're also doing a physically harder job than you've done before. What you could do exercising didn't translate into doing that job.
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Post by bazookagoof on Jan 30, 2022 0:53:30 GMT
Found an article about how people today find it harder to lose weight even if they exercised & dieted the same way people did 40 years ago: amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/407974/Not sure how accurate this theory may be, but I wanted to bookmark it here as food for thought.
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Post by Bean on Jan 30, 2022 8:47:57 GMT
I'd agree with the essence of this based on stuff I've read. I think health articles will reference the microbiome more and more as time goes on; it's fundamental to good health. Modern lifestyles full of processed foods and medicines and short on fibre just don't nourish it, and stress (mental or physical) is damaging too.
The production of many hormones, including feel good hormones like serotonin, is based in the gut, so if it's compromised, it stops our bodies being able to right itself.
A good rule of thumb to look after your gut is to cook as much from scratch as possible using plenty of plants, and where you are buying processed foods/ drinks, read the ingredients and if it has anything in it that you wouldn't have in your cupboards to cook with at home, sack it off!
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Post by 3piggles on Jan 30, 2022 20:14:12 GMT
I agree with some of it. I don't disagree with any of it, just don't have enough information for some of it. I've been having a lot of trouble losing weight. I think part of it is eating a winter diet, and hope that changes when I change over to the summer diet. I'm getting too old to exercise more, and while I could still eat less, I shouldn't have to. We eat healthy food, and reasonable portions, yet since the holidays I've been fighting to get back to my preholiday weight. My concern is, even if these issues are proven beyond any doubt, will the government(s) do anything about it? In the US, free enterprise seems to rule everything, and any attempts to make even the slightest change is met with a great deal of resistance. I would love to see hormones banned. I would like to see a lot of animal farming practices banned. I really doubt that will happen in my lifetime. I think the animal farming industry would have to start failing on its own before any changes were made. Sort of beating a dead horse at that point
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Post by Bean on Jan 31, 2022 8:06:10 GMT
It's sad when what's most immediately profitable gets to the front of the queue when governments are making decisions, rather than what would save so much money through having a healthier and happier population who aren't riddled with loads of completely avoidable health conditions that cost loads in care and prevent people from being productive members of society.
As you say, however definitive the findings of any research, top level change will be a long way off. But still, on an individual level, there's always something we can do when we have good information, even if there are reasons (access to goods or growing spaces, costs) preventing people from doing exactly what they'd like to do.
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Post by 3piggles on Jan 31, 2022 18:40:13 GMT
I think it helps to set an example, and for most people, that means growing some of their own food. There are lots of veggies that take very little care and give a good yield. I applaud community and school gardens in inner city areas. Take an old parking lot and turn it into a community garden. Provide basic planters, dirt and seeds to grow small amounts of things like lettuce, at home. While that's all good, as long as the government allows growers to used toxic weed and insect killers, only the most expensive store veggies will be at all healthy to eat. I wash everything, even soaking the heads of lettuce and other things in a sink of cold water with baking soda. The amount of ick I used to get out of Romaine lettuce heads was disgusting. That seems to have stopped, so I think a lot of customers not only complained, but as I did, refused to buy those products. Nothing talks like money, at least not over here
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Post by bazookagoof on Mar 1, 2022 1:24:23 GMT
I stopped running cold water under my arms several weeks ago, as it didn't really seem to be helping any. I may go back to trying the cold showers when the temperatures rise, just for the health benefits. But for now I stopped because it hurts and isn't comfortable in the wintertime.
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Post by Bean on Mar 1, 2022 8:49:05 GMT
I don't blame you - it's one thing to suffer the discomfort if it works, but if it doesn't help, where's the motivation?!
I'm sorry you haven't got anything to give you an extra bit of relief though - that's not good if your arms are still painful.
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Post by 3piggles on Mar 2, 2022 20:25:00 GMT
I tried it at the Y, after swimming, and it was just too much. Have you tried ice packs, which don't require you to stand in the cold shower when it's cold in the room, too? I have a lot of those, and I'm thinking about using them on my shoulder at night.
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Post by bazookagoof on Mar 3, 2022 1:15:44 GMT
I tried it at the Y, after swimming, and it was just too much. Have you tried ice packs, which don't require you to stand in the cold shower when it's cold in the room, too? I have a lot of those, and I'm thinking about using them on my shoulder at night. We had several ice packs in the house until my wife managed to lose all of them. Haven't had time to look for a replacement, but usually when I'm home I'm not lifting anything heavy so I don't think about it. I'll try to remind myself next chance I get.
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Post by 3piggles on Mar 3, 2022 19:55:37 GMT
We got a box of them off Amazon, and I have a couple in the freezer, but can I remember where the box with the remaining ones are? Of course not They're not lost. They're just not in plain site I regularly forget I raise the head of the bed to take pressure off my left shoulder, and having forgotten, again, I wasn't raising the head of the bed. After a week of painfully bad sleep, with no position being any less painful than any other, I remembered. I got a great night's sleep last night, with the head of the bed raised enough to take the pressure off my shoulder. Yes!
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